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Re: Uncut Hair!Houston chronicle interview w/KenGu
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02-23-2013, 11:14 AM
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Re: Uncut Hair!Houston chronicle interview w/KenGu
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02-23-2013, 11:49 AM
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Re: Uncut Hair!Houston chronicle interview w/KenGu
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I had to drop the wife off at work. What exactly are you asking and waiting for?
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02-23-2013, 01:03 PM
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Re: Uncut Hair!Houston chronicle interview w/KenGu
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I had to drop the wife off at work. What exactly are you asking and waiting for?
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Please go back and read the previous posts...
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02-23-2013, 01:07 PM
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Re: Uncut Hair!Houston chronicle interview w/KenGu
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I read them the first time, thanks. Do you read it differently?
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02-23-2013, 01:12 PM
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Re: Uncut Hair!Houston chronicle interview w/KenGu
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Pentecostal teachers are, in my estimation, skilled at "tricky wording." The Pastor mentioned in the article doesn't come out directly and address the question of "cutting" hair (any length) but states that many different lengths of hair are apparent in his congregation. I also notice he mentions "holiness heritage." In other words, TRADITION. The Pentecostals came out of the Holiness Movement, and to this day, the Trinitarian, non believers in speaking in tongues churches, have the exact same "look" that OP's have. I have had to ask "holiness" women at times where they went to church, because I mistook them for UPC ladies.
When I saw the polygamy wives from the cult of Warren Jeffs' on TV they looked EXACTLY like the women I met back in the late 1960's in an Apostolic Church pastored by a minister my Pastor fellowshipped. From their hair-do's to their dresses to their chunky shoes! Bill O'Reilly on FOX News called them "kooky" looking women. It's all a part of "subjugating" women. It's a CULT look, and I see it as ABUSE!
It's high time, in my estimation, that church people take another look at the scripture passages, used by OP's/Apostolics to teach "standards", and examine these texts on their own two feet. What the OP's/Apostolics are teaching on "standards" was simply carried forward from the Holiness Movement into the Pentecostal Movement, but there has been new study and research on these passages since the Holiness Movement!
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Your post reminded me of something that happened to me a long time ago that was both funny and telling. As a teenager I was attending my first UPC General Conference in Ft. Worth (1975).
As I was walking from my hotel to the convention center there were UPC woman with the giant 1970's oatmeal box high hairdo's everywhere. Two non UPC ladies passed me on the sidewalk and as they went by I heard one say to the other "They're EVERYWHERE!!!!". Like it was a Martian invasion!!! LOL
I thought it was just funny at the time but as I matured I understood the ditch those women were off in with their mile high hair. It became the focus when people looked at them. Not any inner goodness, kindness, fruit of the spirit, etc. The hair was their "badge of holiness" and for too many of them a part of wearing that badge was an attitude of superiority over women who did not.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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02-23-2013, 01:15 PM
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Re: Uncut Hair!Houston chronicle interview w/KenGu
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Your post reminded me of something that happened to me a long time ago that was both funny and telling. As a teenager I was attending my first UPC General Conference in Ft. Worth (1975).
As I was walking from my hotel to the convention center there were UPC woman with the giant 1970's oatmeal box high hairdo's everywhere. Two non UPC ladies passed me on the sidewalk and as they went by I heard one say to the other "They're EVERYWHERE!!!!". Like it was a Martian invasion!!! LOL
I thought it was just funny at the time but as I matured I understood the ditch those women were off in with their mile high hair. It became the focus when people looked at them. Not any inner goodness, kindness, fruit of the spirit, etc. The hair was their "badge of holiness" and for too many of them a part of wearing that badge was an attitude of superiority over women who did not.
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It is 2013 and that spirit is still as prevalent today as it was in 1975. So sad!
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Scripture is its own interpreter. Nothing can cut a diamond but a diamond. Nothing can interpret Scripture but Scripture" Thomas Watson.
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02-23-2013, 01:22 PM
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Re: Uncut Hair!Houston chronicle interview w/KenGu
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Your post reminded me of something that happened to me a long time ago that was both funny and telling. As a teenager I was attending my first UPC General Conference in Ft. Worth (1975).
As I was walking from my hotel to the convention center there were UPC woman with the giant 1970's oatmeal box high hairdo's everywhere. Two non UPC ladies passed me on the sidewalk and as they went by I heard one say to the other "They're EVERYWHERE!!!!". Like it was a Martian invasion!!! LOL
I thought it was just funny at the time but as I matured I understood the ditch those women were off in with their mile high hair. It became the focus when people looked at them. Not any inner goodness, kindness, fruit of the spirit, etc. The hair was their "badge of holiness" and for too many of them a part of wearing that badge was an attitude of superiority over women who did not.
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It is 2013 and that spirit is still as prevalent today as it was in 1975. So sad!
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Said by an ex UPC & seconded by someone who feels that the UPC is a cult.
Very sad indeed! 
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02-23-2013, 01:27 PM
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Re: Uncut Hair!Houston chronicle interview w/KenGu
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Said by an ex UPC & seconded by someone who feels that the UPC is a cult.
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Ron I am going to write this slow because I know that you don't read fast.
Bro I was in UPC and I never said that UPC is a cult and nor do I think that UPC is a cult.
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Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. (Romans 14:4)
Scripture is its own interpreter. Nothing can cut a diamond but a diamond. Nothing can interpret Scripture but Scripture" Thomas Watson.
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02-23-2013, 01:28 PM
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Re: Uncut Hair!Houston chronicle interview w/KenGu
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Hey Bro. you outa pull out the Bible & read it. I only post what is in the Bible & if I ever say, tell you that you should eat twinkies & wear blue jeans, then you would have grounds to complain.
If I post Bible principals & yiou get upset, you need to ask yourself--why?
I am just one man, if I am wrong (I don't believe I am) that is no threat to you is it?
If it is Bible, well, that is another story.
I just am puzzled at why you think I am such a threat to you, that's all.
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Proverbs 29:23 "A man's pride shall bring him low, but honor shall uphold the humble in spirit."
Rom. 12:3 "For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think: but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith."
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