Where Are The Real Apostolics?

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Did St. Paul preach to the Phillipian Jailer an incomplete salvation message?
Did St. Paul preach false doctrine in that one chapter?
Did St. Phillip get swept away by the Holy Ghost before he could finish telling the Ethiopian Eunuch the full salvation message?

I would like to clear a misconception some have, first of all we do not have the full messages of what Paul told the PHillipian Jailer, it is obvious that they were taught baptism, because the Phillipian Jailer and his family were baptized that same night.

We do not know everything that was discussed by Phillip and the Ethipoam Eunuch for the scriptures only says that they had a long discussion, during which Phillip must have mentioned baptism for the Eunuch asked to be baptized.

The book of Acts covers many years and it only gives a summary of most sermons and discussions, there plenty of times when preaching is done and we are not told a single word of what was spoken.

So arguments from silence are really useless, because there is too many sermons that the book of acts is silent about. Can anyone really tell me exactly word for word, what did Paul preach to the Bereans?

The gospels cover 3 and a half years of Jesus ministry, while the Book of Acts cover many more years than that.

I tried to tell people that in Acts we just have a small peek into the early church, much of what was said remains in obscurity. The sermons that we have are basically small sumaries, not the full sermon.

I am not a great preacher by any means, but most of my sermons are longer than the message that Peter preached at Pentecost, of course his message was better than mine. Just read the sermon of Peter and time it and you will see how short it really is.

Remember that in Ephesus Paul preached all night, can anyone tell me exaclthy what he preached about?

[Wang Mo Shi]

Originally Posted by ILG

I was a bona-fide 100% conservative Apostolic for 16 years. My husband and I pastored 2 churches, one of which we started.

And now I'm not. I don't even attend church.

As I contemplated, how should I reply? What should I say? Jesus spoke to my heart and said: Just tell her that I LOVE HER, say, I LOVE YOU, I LOVE YOU.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Hahahahahahaha!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

I have not thrown out the baby with the bath water. I believe in Acts 2:38 but I believe in it the shadow of the Gospels and the rest of the New Testament.

What was taught to me as Salvation now I find it to be steps in growth and maturity in the Lord. Jesus, Paul and Peter taught more on faith in Christ and trusting in Christ more then anything else. Overcoming faith!

How many times can a person stand on the pulpit and scream about Speaking in tongues and Baptism in Jesus name. Teach them what to do when the tongue is done.

Not bad...

Maturity into "what"?
Can you explain what you mean by "steps in growth and maturity in the Lord"?

What is the Father's sole desire concerning every born again believer?

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Not bad...

Maturity into "what"?
Can you explain what you mean by "steps in growth and maturity in the Lord"?

What is the Father's sole desire concerning every born again believer?

What I mean is we grow and understand why we do the things that we do. Example: one gets the joy of being Baptized into Christ and the body of believers (Jesus Name or FSHG), instead of being rushed into a pool of water right after making a confession of faith or having to stand at the altar and be screamed at by Sister and Brother I know better than you and being fearful of not being able to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost and dying on the way home from Church. I have seen more people just get the Holy Ghost with a simple question of have you received the Holy Ghost since you believed. This is without all the crazyness of the altar mayhem.

For me this maturity starts with the teaching on the beauty of the Cross and Christ and His perfect sacrifice and the blood that was spilt. One of the best teaching I ever heard was on the 7 places that Christ bled and the importance in the believers life and this from an Assembly of God church. This same pastor taught on the Jewish Wedding feast. Those are the things that make me want to know more and spark the desire in me to dig beyond what I can see.

When I left my old church I would always feel beat down like I could never do anything right and I was always waiting for God to smote me.

"What is the Father's sole desire concerning every born again believer?"

Luke 10:27
27 So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘your neighbor as yourself.’” (NKJV)