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03-01-2013, 05:45 AM
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Re: Beleiving in a Lie
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Originally Posted by Theophil
They are not "holiness" standards. They are lifestyle choices. You have "traditional " lifestyle choices and non-traditional.
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Given the CHOICE to submit or kick rocks.
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03-01-2013, 06:10 AM
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Re: Beleiving in a Lie
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
You could keep believing that all the way to hell if you want to but it takes repantance and baptism in the name of Jesus to have the blood applied to ones life and by your Friut you have no repentance.
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03-01-2013, 06:17 AM
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Re: Believing in a Lie
Holiness... surrendering self to Jesus. Loving God with all one's being and loving others as themselves. That's true "holiness", not standards. Jesus and the Apostles themselves couldn't get licensed with the UPCI. They UPCI wouldn't think that they were charismatic hippies.
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03-01-2013, 06:18 AM
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Re: Beleiving in a Lie
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Originally Posted by Evenuntodeath
Ok, let me ask you this. Do you believe everything the church preaches has to be straight from the bible, or do you believe the god has given the pastor authority to tell the church not to do certain things that are not in the bible so long as they are within reason?
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There's the problem.......everyone's "within reason" is different...........
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03-01-2013, 06:19 AM
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Re: Beleiving in a Lie
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Lost as two boys kissing
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Just curious, HG....what scripture do you use to say that anyone who smokes cigarettes is lost?
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03-01-2013, 06:40 AM
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Re: Believing in a Lie
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Holiness... surrendering self to Jesus. Loving God with all one's being and loving others as themselves. That's true "holiness", not standards. Jesus and the Apostles themselves couldn't get licensed with the UPCI. They UPCI wouldn't think that they were charismatic hippies.
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The apostles couldn't get license with the UPCI because the apostles were dead when the UPC was first formed.
I still see the UPCI is the preferred whipping boy around here.
Good Grief!
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03-01-2013, 06:43 AM
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Re: Beleiving in a Lie
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Just curious, HG....what scripture do you use to say that anyone who smokes cigarettes is lost?
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The same verse against dropping acid.
Wisdom is justified by her children.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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03-01-2013, 06:48 AM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: Beleiving in a Lie
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
The same verse against dropping acid.
Wisdom is justified by her children.
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This is acceptable from you. You're consistent with your diet.
It's really stupid for an obese person that drowns in lattes and hashbrowns every morning to take a stand against tobacco and alcohol consumption.
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03-01-2013, 06:59 AM
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Re: Beleiving in a Lie
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Originally Posted by houston
This is acceptable from you. You're consistent with your diet.
It's really stupid for an obese person that drowns in lattes and hashbrowns every morning to take a stand against tobacco and alcohol consumption.
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No doubt, abuse is abuse.
When you can't fit into your pants it isn't because you're still a growing boy.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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03-01-2013, 07:04 AM
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Re: Beleiving in a Lie
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
The same verse against dropping acid.
Wisdom is justified by her children.
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Problem is, if we use that logic, we should preach against too much red meat, fried foods, soda pop, processed foods, sugar, and the list goes on........I know the old "don't defile the temple" justification.....but, it seems to only apply to certain things.
Now, don't get me wrong, I think anyone would have to be an idiot to try and justify cigarettes, just based on health risks.......let common sense take over once in a while........but, to say "lost as two boys kissing"?
I just don't see the correlation......
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