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03-06-2013, 10:54 AM
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
Even little kids know better than to speak to the Angels. My son did not speak to the Angel at all.
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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The sweetest baby dedication that I have ever witnessed, the minister asked God to send/charge an angel to that baby.
I'd never heard that before, but believe we should do it!
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I don't agree with doing that. It appears from scripture it is something that just takes place. ( Matthew 18:10)
With people hanging and putting angel statues all over their houses, I wouldn't encourage this type of thing.
Our focus should always be on Jesus Christ alone, knowing the things He commands and directs.
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03-06-2013, 11:05 AM
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I don't agree with doing that. It appears from scripture it is something that just takes place. ( Matthew 18:10)
With people hanging and putting angel statues all over their houses, I wouldn't encourage this type of thing.
Our focus should always be on Jesus Christ alone, knowing the things He commands and directs.
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There were "angel" statues on the ark of the covenant.
Also, the tapestry of the tabernacle...
Images of angels don't bother me much.
However, throughout the NT we see angels manifesting, speaking, and being spoken to. I think we are not "spiritually in tune" as the ancients were with the spiritual to experience angelic realities.
However, I agree with you, focus should be on Jesus Christ. He alone deserves worship. However, respecting the realities of angels and their current order is biblical.
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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There were "angel" statues on the ark of the covenant.
Also, the tapestry of the tabernacle...
Images of angels don't bother me much.
However, throughout the NT we see angels manifesting, speaking, and being spoken to. I think we are not "spiritually in tune" as the ancients were with the spiritual to experience angelic realities.
However, I agree with you, focus should be on Jesus Christ. He alone deserves worship. However, respecting the realities of angels and their current order is biblical.
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Cherubim and Seraphim had wings. A bit different than angels who were seen as normal men. So, would there be a difference? It appears there is a difference.
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03-06-2013, 11:17 AM
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I don't agree with doing that. It appears from scripture it is something that just takes place. ( Matthew 18:10)
With people hanging and putting angel statues all over their houses, I wouldn't encourage this type of thing.
Our focus should always be on Jesus Christ alone, knowing the things He commands and directs.
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I can appreciate that. It was new to me, but at the time, I thought how he prayed it (and he was UPC) was very sweet.
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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I can appreciate that. It was new to me, but at the time, I thought how he prayed it (and he was UPC) was very sweet.
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It's just me. When my roommate stole my crucifix necklace at 20 years old, my first thought was, "I don't have to go back there!" I realized later how much these idols have a hold of people. Hence, I have no angel figurines or crosses in my house.
Don't get me started on the prayer cloths.
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03-06-2013, 11:21 AM
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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It's just me. When my roommate stole my crucifix necklace at 20 years old, my first thought was, "I don't have to go back there!" I realized later how much these idols have a hold of people. Hence, I have no angel figurines or crosses in my house.
Don't get me started on the prayer cloths. 
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I can understand that.
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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Cherubim and Seraphim had wings. A bit different than angels who were seen as normal men. So, would there be a difference? It appears there is a difference.
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If angels have a "spiritual form" I am left with the impression that they are rather beastlike. Wings, feathers, talons, etc. However, seeing that they are highly intelligent and able to materialize... it may be that they choose a man "human form" when dealing with man. Imagine opening your eyes to something like this...
But, I picture their reality looking more like this (which might be just as frightening):
It would stand to reason that when dealing with man, they might "tone it down" a bit...
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03-06-2013, 11:29 AM
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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It's just me. When my roommate stole my crucifix necklace at 20 years old, my first thought was, "I don't have to go back there!" I realized later how much these idols have a hold of people. Hence, I have no angel figurines or crosses in my house.
Don't get me started on the prayer cloths. 
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I can see why you might feel that way.
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Re: Angels: Ministering Spirits
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If angels have a "spiritual form" I am left with the impression that they are rather beastlike. Wings, feathers, talons, etc. However, seeing that they are highly intelligent and able to materialize... it may be that they choose a man "human form" when dealing with man. Imagine opening your eyes to something like this...
But, I picture their reality looking more like this (which might be just as frightening):
It would stand to reason that when dealing with man, they might "tone it down" a bit...

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Aquila,
I just want scripture. I don't care about drawings.
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