Christians and how they make everything...

[LUKE2447]

a spiritual event or awakening.

Someones loved one dies and the only way they fine something good out of it is to think "revival is coming." They make statement about the person and somehow they come in contactwith someone and oh it is a sign of this orthat about that person. Person could have not lived for God or gone to church in years but that won't stop them from putting them through the gates of heaven because of xyz sign. I have seen people totally be inconsistent with theology to ignore the obvious. I know it is hard and a horrible situation. You def don't want to hurt anyone or make it worse. Yet people will make comments they know is wrong as well to BE POSITIVE. In the end they are lying to their beliefs.

I see this in other things. A girl half in half out of church sleeps around talks about God. Gets pregnant is not getting married but still living with the guy and talks about how God has been guiding her life and this little one into her life. REALLY? Friends and family on facebook be all nice talking about God as if she actually is living for him.

Why are people so MUST BE POSITIVE instead of simply don't say anything at all. Is that not lying and making it worse? Sure don't go ripping them apart but wow just throw out what you believe to be nice. It absolutely drives me crazy.

[LifeUncommon]

We don't know the eternal destination of anyone, whether heaven or hell. To assume the status of their salvation or whether they they are "living for god" is a dangerous path to travel.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

a spiritual event or awakening.

Someones loved one dies and the only way they fine something good out of it is to think "revival is coming." They make statement about the person and somehow they come in contactwith someone and oh it is a sign of this orthat about that person. Person could have not lived for God or gone to church in years but that won't stop them from putting them through the gates of heaven because of xyz sign. I have seen people totally be inconsistent with theology to ignore the obvious. I know it is hard and a horrible situation. You def don't want to hurt anyone or make it worse. Yet people will make comments they know is wrong as well to BE POSITIVE. In the end they are lying to their beliefs.

I see this in other things. A girl half in half out of church sleeps around talks about God. Gets pregnant is not getting married but still living with the guy and talks about how God has been guiding her life and this little one into her life. REALLY? Friends and family on facebook be all nice talking about God as if she actually is living for him.

Why are people so MUST BE POSITIVE instead of simply don't say anything at all. Is that not lying and making it worse? Sure don't go ripping them apart but wow just throw out what you believe to be nice. It absolutely drives me crazy.

You are so right.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by LifeUncommon

We don't know the eternal destination of anyone, whether heaven or hell. To assume the status of their salvation or whether they they are "living for god" is a dangerous path to travel.

Oh really? Paul said if anyone calls themselves a "brother" we are to judge.

1 Cor. 5:9-13

5:9 I wrote to you in my letter to have no company with sexual sinners; 5:10 yet not at all meaning with the sexual sinners of this world, or with the covetous and extortioners, or with idolaters; for then you would have to leave the world. 5:11 But as it is, I wrote to you not to associate with anyone who is called a brother who is a sexual sinner, or covetous, or an idolater, or a slanderer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner. Don’t even eat with such a person. 5:12 For what have I to do with also judging those who are outside? Don’t you judge those who are within? 5:13 But those who are outside, God judges.


God wants everyone clear about who will NOT be in the kingdom.

Oh those judgmental Apostles! They just keep messing up our theology!

1 Cor. 6:9-10

6:9 Or don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals, 6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor slanderers, nor extortioners, will inherit the Kingdom of God.

Honestly this "Protestant Evangelical" doctrine is ALMOST as bad as Universalism! Everyone and anyone can live in sin up to the last minute, then say "Jesus I accept you as my Savior on their deathbed and on that day enter into Heavens Gates!

In this faith you could never say ANYONE died lost. For all we know Chavez anyone at death could whisper this prayer with their last breath and ... THERE IT IS! Heaven!

Oh but TO ASSUME someone might not be right with God NOW THAT is a dangerous path to be on!

Funny I thought the DANGEROUS PATH was for someone be walking in sin?

[Dordrecht]

The Bible says, you shall know them by their fruits.

If the fruits are bad, you can pretty well say
that a person is not a Christian.

However...... you never know what happened in the
last hour of their lives.
They could have repented sincerely and called upon
the name of the Lord.
That would mean they are saved if they did.

Yes, yes, you die hard UPCI'ers, I know, you would say they need
to be speaking in tongues and be baptized in water in order to be saved.
But I don't believe that way. So there!

It's God's desire that ALL be saved, thats why it says in His Word
that all who call upon His name will be saved.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

The Bible says, you shall know them by their fruits.

If the fruits are bad, you can pretty well say
that a person is not a Christian.

However...... you never know what happened in the
last hour of their lives.
They could have repented sincerely and called upon
the name of the Lord.
That would mean they are saved if they did.

Yes, yes, you die hard UPCI'ers, I know, you would say they need
to be speaking in tongues and be baptized in water in order to be saved.
But I don't believe that way. So there!

It's God's desire that ALL be saved, thats why it says in His Word
that all who call upon His name will be saved.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

The Bible says, you shall know them by their fruits.

If the fruits are bad, you can pretty well say
that a person is not a Christian.

However...... you never know what happened in the
last hour of their lives.
They could have repented sincerely and called upon
the name of the Lord.
That would mean they are saved if they did.

Yes, yes, you die hard UPCI'ers, I know, you would say they need
to be speaking in tongues and be baptized in water in order to be saved.
But I don't believe that way. So there!

It's God's desire that ALL be saved, thats why it says in His Word
that all who call upon His name will be saved.

Luke 5:32 with Apostolic rewrite

32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance and to be Baptized in My Name and to speak in Tongues

[jen4yeshua]

Originally Posted by LifeUncommon

We don't know the eternal destination of anyone, whether heaven or hell. To assume the status of their salvation or whether they they are "living for god" is a dangerous path to travel.

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Luke 5:32 with Apostolic rewrite

32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance and to be Baptized in My Name and to speak in Tongues

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This is what Luke 5:32 says, Navygoat:

King James Version (KJV)
32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
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Navygoat, you added to that scripture!
You always "rewrite" scripture to back up your case?

[Michael The Disciple]

You all have invented a new religon.

APOSTOLIC UNIVERSALISM!