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03-13-2013, 01:32 PM
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Re: To tithe or not to tithe?
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03-13-2013, 04:06 PM
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Re: To tithe or not to tithe?
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I also never said tithing is required from this story
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So, would agree that tithing isn't required for the New Testament church?
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03-13-2013, 04:12 PM
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Re: To tithe or not to tithe?
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He made a vow to serve God, to make Yhwh his God. As part of that commitment he also committed to give a tenth of all to the LORD
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Okay, did Jacob bully God into his terms and conditions? Why do modern day preachers emphasize that congregants must "first" tithe in order to receive a blessing when Jacob did the complete opposite? Who is wrong, Jacob or modern day preachers?
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03-13-2013, 04:14 PM
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Re: To tithe or not to tithe?
I think tithing is an individual thing. If someone is not wanting to tithe, why should they be told they had to?
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03-13-2013, 04:29 PM
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Re: To tithe or not to tithe?
Because there is a shallow vien of Christianity that loves the thou shalts, and thou shalt nots!
Keep it simple. What do I gotta do?
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03-13-2013, 04:34 PM
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Re: To tithe or not to tithe?
But, if you are giving unwillingly, God doesn't honor it does he?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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03-13-2013, 04:45 PM
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Re: To tithe or not to tithe?
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Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder
So, would agree that tithing isn't required for the New Testament church?
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I said before the principle is taught in Corinthians. Requirement for what?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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03-13-2013, 04:47 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: To tithe or not to tithe?
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Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder
Okay, did Jacob bully God into his terms and conditions? Why do modern day preachers emphasize that congregants must "first" tithe in order to receive a blessing when Jacob did the complete opposite? Who is wrong, Jacob or modern day preachers?
Regards,
Jacob's Ladder
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I have no idea what you mean about Jacob bullying God.
I can't answer for what modern day congregations do
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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03-13-2013, 10:21 PM
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Re: To tithe or not to tithe?
In like manner:
"The tithe was given to the Levites, and the tenth of the tithe to the priests, as their inheritance in place of land inheritance because they served God! God’s plan was that they would own no land, because He would be their inheritance (their land) through the possession of the tithe. This has certainly changed in our modern society where gospel workers usually own and inherit property, often have great wealth gained from the churches they serve, and still demand the whole tithe for themselves."
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03-13-2013, 11:00 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: To tithe or not to tithe?
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Originally Posted by Rudy
In like manner:
"The tithe was given to the Levites, and the tenth of the tithe to the priests, as their inheritance in place of land inheritance because they served God! God’s plan was that they would own no land, because He would be their inheritance (their land) through the possession of the tithe. This has certainly changed in our modern society where gospel workers usually own and inherit property, often have great wealth gained from the churches they serve, and still demand the whole tithe for themselves."
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The tithe predates the Levites....
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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