Bombshell- Considering going back to the UPC

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Yes.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Yes

lol Thanks, Budro!

I see you are also a part of Acts 10 and it still applies, just sayin'...

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by houston

Let's tie her up and toss her into a river. If she floats, she IS a witch, and we'll shoot her.

If she drowns, she is no a witch, and goes to heaven.

Nope. She is a witch if she weighs the same as a duck.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Nope. She is a witch if she weighs the same as a duck.

Annnddddd....has she turned someone into a newt? And the false nose is a dead givaway.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

PS-Acts 10 also proves that forgiveness of sins takes place prior to water baptism.

No it doesn't. That is laughable. Acts 10 does not prove anything about water baptism but that when God showed him they where acceptable to Peter, He IMMEDIATELY BAPTIZED THEM! Who was I to WITHSTAND GOD? He immediately commanded them to be baptized to be brought into covenant and united with Christ.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

No it doesn't. That is laughable.

Forgiveness of sins take place when another man intones the correct words over someone? What about then another man intones the incorrect words, the person's sins aren't forgiven?

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Forgiveness of sins take place when another man intones the correct words over someone? What about then another man intones the incorrect words, the person's sins aren't forgiven?

Faith meets the appointed time in which God has set to be united with the atoning work of Christ. When you are batpized it is a a calling upon the one in whom you are to be identified with in covenant. Jesus is the mediator and one who has the sole authority.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Faith meets the appointed time in which God has set to be united with the atoning work of Christ. When you are batpized it is a a calling upon the one in whom you are to be identified with in covenant. Jesus is the mediator and one who has the sole authority.

Who does the calling? And if the baptzor calls wrong, does it affect the salvation of the baptizee?

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by revrandy

He could have repented as Peter repented...but choose to take his own life...

Judas sold Christ...

Peter denied Christ...

Either way I think Judas knew he was a dead man...the Sanhedrin wouldn't let him live with the illegal way things went down...

You have a good point.

I don't see the HS as being tied to tongues exclusively. By Judas having been with Jesus he clearly accepted Him, but then sold him. I have held a certain opinion of Judas for a long time. I feel that his hanging himself was possibly his way of repenting. I think about times in my past I felt I betrayed God I felt like I could never make it right. That is until I found out what grace really is. I would have never taken my own life, but perhaps when Judas did that was his way of repenting. It's a little bit of a stretch, but I figure if others can make stretches out of the Bible so can I

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Who does the calling? And if the baptzor calls wrong, does it affect the salvation of the baptizee?

Acts 22:16 shows Ananias telling Paul to call. As long as agreement in petition is made it does not matter if it is you or the baptizer. You are still invoking his name with authority by petition in baptism.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

いない舌で話せなかったのは使徒ユダだった。

他の舌の証拠は、条件として救いを与えている!!!!

Mmm... I see I must have quoted the wrong person (Eply) when I meant to quote someone else.