Parents Consent To Baptize Children

[Wonder]

Originally Posted by seekerman

But if baptism is a heaven and hell issue, the parents are in essence sending their child to hell for forbidding him from being baptized.

Nope I don't agree. Just like I dont think that a baby that dies will be sent to hell if the parents are or are not saved.

God is a just and merciful God !

[Godzchild]

Originally Posted by Wonder

Nope I don't agree. Just like I dont think that a baby that dies will be sent to hell if the parents are or are not saved.

God is a just and merciful God !

[jen4yeshua]

Originally Posted by bishoph

Teaching children to disobey parents in the name of God is still wrong. A pastor should never attempt to override a parent's authority. Love/Win the parent.......and teach the child the Word of God, when they get old enough they will follow the Word that has been planted in their heart.

However, if I were a betting man.......I would bet that if you teach a child to rebel against the God given order of authority in their home.....when they become of age (even if they get "saved" in violation of their parents) they will most likely NOT serve God and will have submission issues with God and others as long as they live.

[jen4yeshua]

Originally Posted by Cindy

No, seekerman. It has to do with usurping God given parental authority. Perhaps this is how David Koresh and Jim Jones got started.

[jen4yeshua]

As a Christian, I see the Government taking biblical parental rights away at an alarming rate. I think we need to be consistent in supporting the rights of parents to have the say in what's best for their children. I , however, think that a teenager might be able to make an informed choice. If I was a teenager and knew I wanted to get baptised, but my parents forbid it, it would be a torturous wait until I reached the age of legal adulthood. In this situation, prayer and seeking God's will would probably be the best course of action.

[jen4yeshua]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Not sure that I can defend it theologicaly but I am of the opinion that "other people" can't send me to hell... that is just too empowering for said "other people".

[jen4yeshua]

Originally Posted by Cindy

But, if a Pastor or preacher encourages a child to be disobedient in this instance, what else might he coerce a child to do against parental consent? What if the child decides that they don't have to obey their parents anymore, after all the preacher baptized him/her against their wishes.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by jen4yeshua

As a Christian, I see the Government taking biblical parental rights away at an alarming rate. I think we need to be consistent in supporting the rights of parents to have the say in what's best for their children. I , however, think that a teenager might be able to make an informed choice. If I was a teenager and knew I wanted to get baptised, but my parents forbid it, it would be a torturous wait until I reached the age of legal adulthood. In this situation, prayer and seeking God's will would probably be the best course of action.

A big problem is that children are raising children, (high school girls are having babies) when that happens there is bound to be chaos.

Do you really expect a teenager to take the right course of action?
you obviously have not visited a high school recently.
Since we kicked God out of the schools, the devil has had free reign in there.

[Bishop Cleatus]

Children raising children. Sounds like the 1930s when everyone got married at 16. The good 'ol days.

[jen4yeshua]

Originally Posted by Bishop Cleatus

Children raising children. Sounds like the 1930s when everyone got married at 16. The good 'ol days.

You said it soooo much better than I could have Bishop Cleatus
I believe that we treat our young people like children for far too long. It is a societal problem but I think that the "children having children" line is too often trotted out to disempower young parents and justify the booming adoption industry where children are treated as commodities. Not a biblical approach at all.