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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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I've lived here for 13 years and I've not had a scintilla of fear or problems. Here in the 'burbs our police forces are strong and they keep the crime out. Memphis gets a bum rap for it's crime statistics, but much of that happens in isolated areas that are notorious crime hot spots. I drive into Memphis all of the time without any fear. There are many quiet and peaceful and upscale neighborhoods and areas. It's a great town rich in culture, history, food and music. It's our home.
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Without a doubt you are correct that there are many nice suburbs. That still doesn't take away from the actual Memphis that I don't like.
My first clue it might not be a safe place was when I first started going there on business almost ten years ago and when I had to stay in a hotel just outside of Germantown it had a high fence all the way around it and the gas station down the road not only had the cashier behind bullet proof glass but they did not even have a hole big enough to put products through for them to ring up! It was just a slit for credit cards and cash. You held up what you wanted to buy and they rang it up from memory.
My SIL was alone there on a business trip and decided to check out Beale Street for some live music. He foolishly decided to save a few bucks and parked his car a few blocks away rather than the Peabody's parking garage like normal folks do. About 10 or 11 pm when he got to his car he was carjacked. Forced to drive around with a gun to the back of his head looking for an ATM for him to get them money out. Luckily when they got to the ATM there was a lot of activity and they got spooked. Stole his laptop and ran off to their buddies car that had been following them.
So yes you may have nice burbs and Germantown but there is plenty that is not nice! I have taken a wrong turn a few times and had to have a prayer meeting in my car praying for my safety. I just don't want to live in a place you have to be so careful about where you go. In 2010 Forbes named Memphis the most dangerous city to live in. I have a hard time believing that though. I would think Detroit, Chicago, and St. Louis should have Memphis beat!
Besides it is a long held tradition for Nashvillians to hate Memphis and Memphis folks to hate Nashville (although I don't think RG Craig does).
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-11-2013, 07:07 AM
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I've lived here for 13 years and I've not had a scintilla of fear or problems. Here in the 'burbs our police forces are strong and they keep the crime out. Memphis gets a bum rap for it's crime statistics, but much of that happens in isolated areas that are notorious crime hot spots. I drive into Memphis all of the time without any fear. There are many quiet and peaceful and upscale neighborhoods and areas. It's a great town rich in culture, history, food and music. It's our home.
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DB defending the hood! Nice!
CC1 is letting one bad experience taint his view. I lived in Memphis for about 5 years and I enjoyed my time there for the most part. There are indeed parts of Memphis to avoid just as there are parts of Nashville to avoid. There did seem to be high racial tension while I lived in Memphis.
I now live in Nashville, and I must say that it seems to be a much safer city as a whole with a lot less racial tension.
Our cue to leave Memphis was when the school board (newly black majority) voted to give the multi-million dollar contract of computerizing the schools to a young black guy who started his new company three months before with very little capital. Financial stability didn't matter, ability to actually perform the job didn't matter, and a history of any success didn't matter. All that mattered was that his skin was black! Who did he replace? A small company named IBM!
What ended up happening was the black guy sub-contracted the work to IBM, costing the school district the extra money to give this guy his cut! The black guy was smart! It was the school board that was dumb!
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04-11-2013, 08:18 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
My SIL and BIL live in Collierville and attend Germantown Baptist Church.
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04-11-2013, 09:33 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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DB defending the hood! Nice!
CC1 is letting one bad experience taint his view. I lived in Memphis for about 5 years and I enjoyed my time there for the most part. There are indeed parts of Memphis to avoid just as there are parts of Nashville to avoid. There did seem to be high racial tension while I lived in Memphis.
I now live in Nashville, and I must say that it seems to be a much safer city as a whole with a lot less racial tension.
Our cue to leave Memphis was when the school board (newly black majority) voted to give the multi-million dollar contract of computerizing the schools to a young black guy who started his new company three months before with very little capital. Financial stability didn't matter, ability to actually perform the job didn't matter, and a history of any success didn't matter. All that mattered was that his skin was black! Who did he replace? A small company named IBM!
What ended up happening was the black guy sub-contracted the work to IBM, costing the school district the extra money to give this guy his cut! The black guy was smart! It was the school board that was dumb!
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Smart fella! 
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04-11-2013, 09:51 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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DB defending the hood! Nice!
CC1 is letting one bad experience taint his view. I lived in Memphis for about 5 years and I enjoyed my time there for the most part. There are indeed parts of Memphis to avoid just as there are parts of Nashville to avoid. There did seem to be high racial tension while I lived in Memphis.
I now live in Nashville, and I must say that it seems to be a much safer city as a whole with a lot less racial tension.
Our cue to leave Memphis was when the school board (newly black majority) voted to give the multi-million dollar contract of computerizing the schools to a young black guy who started his new company three months before with very little capital. Financial stability didn't matter, ability to actually perform the job didn't matter, and a history of any success didn't matter. All that mattered was that his skin was black! Who did he replace? A small company named IBM!
What ended up happening was the black guy sub-contracted the work to IBM, costing the school district the extra money to give this guy his cut! The black guy was smart! It was the school board that was dumb!
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Not just one bad experience!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-11-2013, 10:04 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Not just one bad experience!
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You just gotta' know the territory of where you are welcomed and not welcomed. Once you know the guidelines, you should be just fine! I'm sure it's the out-of-towners that get targeted. Sorry about your bad experiences!
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04-11-2013, 10:13 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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You just gotta' know the territory of where you are welcomed and not welcomed. Once you know the guidelines, you should be just fine! I'm sure it's the out-of-towners that get targeted. Sorry about your bad experiences!
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I said from the start that there are many nice suburbs and areas in Memphis like Germantown. I have driven through many beautiful old neighborhoods of mansions, etc.
That does not do away with my overall view of the city which is that it is one that is dangerous, has racial tension, and in the actual city / urban area has a lot of corrupt and incompetent government.
In other words the few bright spots don't change my overall opinion. However I understand the loyalty folks who live there or who have lived there have towards their city. I have just been blessed to live in two awesome metropolitan areas the last 30 years (Austin Texas and Nashville TN).
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-11-2013, 12:47 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Originally Posted by StillStanding
You just gotta' know the territory of where you are welcomed and not welcomed. Once you know the guidelines, you should be just fine! I'm sure it's the out-of-towners that get targeted. Sorry about your bad experiences!
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My wife and I have lived in the Memphis area now for less then 2 years. We do live in a newer subdivision which is in a nice area....close to MS, Collierville, and the interstate. We love our area..feel safe...and enjoy being so close to the city if we want to go..
The Lord Jesus died for all the souls in Memphis just as he did for anywhere else....People need salvation in order for their out look and ways to change...A burden is a burden and God sends whom HE pleases to carry out HIS work. We hope to be more involved in the Memphis work soon....
Blessings to you all,
The Rev
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04-11-2013, 06:20 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Originally Posted by CC1
Without a doubt you are correct that there are many nice suburbs. That still doesn't take away from the actual Memphis that I don't like.
My first clue it might not be a safe place was when I first started going there on business almost ten years ago and when I had to stay in a hotel just outside of Germantown it had a high fence all the way around it and the gas station down the road not only had the cashier behind bullet proof glass but they did not even have a hole big enough to put products through for them to ring up! It was just a slit for credit cards and cash. You held up what you wanted to buy and they rang it up from memory.
My SIL was alone there on a business trip and decided to check out Beale Street for some live music. He foolishly decided to save a few bucks and parked his car a few blocks away rather than the Peabody's parking garage like normal folks do. About 10 or 11 pm when he got to his car he was carjacked. Forced to drive around with a gun to the back of his head looking for an ATM for him to get them money out. Luckily when they got to the ATM there was a lot of activity and they got spooked. Stole his laptop and ran off to their buddies car that had been following them.
So yes you may have nice burbs and Germantown but there is plenty that is not nice! I have taken a wrong turn a few times and had to have a prayer meeting in my car praying for my safety. I just don't want to live in a place you have to be so careful about where you go. In 2010 Forbes named Memphis the most dangerous city to live in. I have a hard time believing that though. I would think Detroit, Chicago, and St. Louis should have Memphis beat!
Besides it is a long held tradition for Nashvillians to hate Memphis and Memphis folks to hate Nashville (although I don't think RG Craig does).
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I've gone to church services in some of the worst neighborhoods in Memphis. Never a problem. In fact I rarely hear of black on white or white on black crime. Most of the crime is black on black. You can go to neighborhoods in Nashville and find the same dangers. But if I had experienced what your SIL did I would not have fond memories either. Was this before or after the FedEx Forum was built?
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04-11-2013, 06:23 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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My SIL and BIL live in Collierville and attend Germantown Baptist Church.
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Well they are missing some of the best preaching in the Bluff City.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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