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Old 06-17-2013, 02:57 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

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Ok, I am the last person in the world to criticize anyone for not going to church (especially since you actually did go elsewhere), as I haven't felt the need to go for the last 6 years or so. And when it comes to spiritual things, I'm pretty much live and let live.

So maybe you won't take it personally if I mention that your anger does seem a little bit excessive for the topic at hand?

So I feel that there might be some personal button that is being pushed. (but don't worry, I won't play armchair psychologist with you). However, it is obvious that you also have spiritual concerns as well.

Whereas, it is in my opinion appropriate for a community/organization to sometimes focus on on particular topic/role that does not effect everyone in said community. (i.e. I don't think you are right to ask that it not be done at all), however you maybe need to address the situation with your Pastor if you feel that the recognition to Mother's/Fathers to be surpassing the spiritual needs of the congregation to worship, hear the word, and have communal prayer.
Lol the only anger I had was due to people attacking me personally because I chose not to get up early, drive across town for a program not a church service

And

I did NOT ask that there be nothing at all for fathers. I said the exact opposite. I said have something but ALSO have an actual service and include others.
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:01 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

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You did not read my post...
Barb Im sorry for offending you.

I am also bothered at how some here have attacked me for pointing out people feel alienated and that I often dont go anymore because its not a service anymore.

I don't understand that
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:15 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

Baby, do you understand me now?
Sometimes I feel a little mad
But don't you know that no one alive can always be an angel
When things go wrong I feel real bad.

I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood

Baby, sometimes I'm so carefree
With a joy that's hard to hide
And sometimes it seems that, all I have to do is worry
And then you're bound to see my other side

I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood

If I seem edgy, I want you to know,
That I never mean to take it out on you
Life has its problems, and I get my share,
And that's one thing I never mean to do

Cause I love you,
Oh,

Oh, oh, oh, baby - don't you know I'm human
I have thoughts like any other one
Sometimes I find myself, Lord, regretting
Some foolish thing, some little simple thing I've done

I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
Yes, I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
Yes, I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood

Yes, I'm just a soul whose intentions are good!
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:26 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

It's like going to a program for happily married couples when you are single - - naw, I'll just skip that one.

That doesn't make me bitter, does it?
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:30 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

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Barb Im sorry for offending you.

I am also bothered at how some here have attacked me for pointing out people feel alienated and that I often dont go anymore because its not a service anymore.

I don't understand that
Apology accepted.

Church services as a whole have changed for sure, but regarding the subject of your thread, I'm not so sure an occasional program is wrong.

I remember when I was a young'un my momma started a children's choir...not very popular in the late '50s. So because 'some' folks thought it was just a kids thing, the pastor would only let us sing for special occasions. But here's the deal...

The father of one of the saints was an unsaved elderly gentlemen who only came once a year to hear mom's little choir.

You see, mom taught us more than The Birdie With the Yellow Bill...we learned 3 part harmony and sang song like How Big Is God and He Lives...songs with meat and potatoes on them. That man came back year after year to receive a message he wouldn't otherwise sit for.

Too bad he only came at Easter and Christmas for a program.

I guess I'm saying this subject is broader than the brush any of us, not just you, but any of us are painting with. There's a lot to be considered on all sides...
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:34 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

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Baby, do you understand me now?
Sometimes I feel a little mad
But don't you know that no one alive can always be an angel
When things go wrong I feel real bad.

I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood

Baby, sometimes I'm so carefree
With a joy that's hard to hide
And sometimes it seems that, all I have to do is worry
And then you're bound to see my other side

I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood

If I seem edgy, I want you to know,
That I never mean to take it out on you
Life has its problems, and I get my share,
And that's one thing I never mean to do

Cause I love you,
Oh,

Oh, oh, oh, baby - don't you know I'm human
I have thoughts like any other one
Sometimes I find myself, Lord, regretting
Some foolish thing, some little simple thing I've done

I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
Yes, I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
Yes, I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood

Yes, I'm just a soul whose intentions are good!
Wow... does everyone else hear it with that cool sixties music?
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:45 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

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It's like going to a program for happily married couples when you are single - - naw, I'll just skip that one.

That doesn't make me bitter, does it?
According to the loving Christian here it makes you selfish and whiner
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:47 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

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Apology accepted.

Church services as a whole have changed for sure, but regarding the subject of your thread, I'm not so sure an occasional program is wrong.

I remember when I was a young'un my momma started a children's choir...not very popular in the late '50s. So because 'some' folks thought it was just a kids thing, the pastor would only let us sing for special occasions. But here's the deal...

The father of one of the saints was an unsaved elderly gentlemen who only came once a year to hear mom's little choir.

You see, mom taught us more than The Birdie With the Yellow Bill...we learned 3 part harmony and sang song like How Big Is God and He Lives...songs with meat and potatoes on them. That man came back year after year to receive a message he wouldn't otherwise sit for.

Too bad he only came at Easter and Christmas for a program.

I guess I'm saying this subject is broader than the brush any of us, not just you, but any of us are painting with. There's a lot to be considered on all sides...
Thank you. As I said Im ok with a program but its possible to have as program and a regular service all in one
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  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:20 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

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Thank you. As I said Im ok with a program but its possible to have as program and a regular service all in one
What do you consider a "regular service?"
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:29 PM
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What do you consider a "regular service?"
Preaching and altar call, testimonies etc...what you probably usually have
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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