Serena Williams was Right?

Praxeas · #1 06-22-2013, 03:42 PM

Tennis player Serena Williams has received a lot of flack and has apologized for statements she made to Rollingstone Mag about a high profile rape case..

My question is, was she right in her first statements?

First off she did say she was not blaming the girl BUT...she added

"I'm not blaming the girl, but if you're a 16-year-old and you're drunk like that, your parents should teach you: Don't take drinks from other people."

and ".. she shouldn't have put herself in that position."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/0...#ixzz2Wz3Kpn5C

Is this blaming the rape victim? Or is this good advice to all girls?

rgcraig · #2 06-22-2013, 04:17 PM

I would say its just good advice for a young girl.

Praxeas · #3 06-22-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I would say its just good advice for a young girl.

I would too but apparently if you do say that people get all bent out of shape and accuse you of saying she deserved it. Crazy

Renee29 · #4 06-22-2013, 07:01 PM

I think it's good advice.

J4Truth · #5 06-22-2013, 11:16 PM

I agree its good advice, and I was thinking on something like this earlier.

The simple reality is its good advice to give to a non-victim, but the moment you tell a victim of all the mistakes they made that led to them being a victim in the first place you're going to come off as blaming them for even being a victim. Can't really escape that reality, especially when most people that is a victim to some kind of traumatic experience would probably rack their brains on all the "wouldas" "shouldas" couldas" that made them a victim in the first place. Essentially, on some level, they already blame themselves at least in part.

Sasha · #6 06-23-2013, 07:19 AM

I don't think 'blaming the victim' for being raped when they might have been able to prevent it is any different than someone taking out money and having it on their lap while they sleep on the curb. If someone comes along and steals it, well, ya shouldn't have had it laying out there for someone to take! This doesn't absolve the person who stole it, but you have to protect yourself from being an easy victim, and IMO, that responsibility lies in all of us.

Pliny · #7 06-23-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Tennis player Serena Williams has received a lot of flack and has apologized for statements she made to Rollingstone Mag about a high profile rape case..

My question is, was she right in her first statements?

First off she did say she was not blaming the girl BUT...she added

"I'm not blaming the girl, but if you're a 16-year-old and you're drunk like that, your parents should teach you: Don't take drinks from other people."

and ".. she shouldn't have put herself in that position."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/0...#ixzz2Wz3Kpn5C

Is this blaming the rape victim? Or is this good advice to all girls?

Perhaps Serena is a Muslim. They always blame the victim.

Someone didn’t get the memo that it’s growing increasingly uncool to blame the victim for the actions of the aggressors. Here’s a letter sent to the Toronto Sun from an Islamic street preacher who really doesn’t like them womyn having the right to dress as they want – because it puts them in danger, you see:

"I wanted to mention that the reason why these sex attacks are continuously happening is because the Canadian laws, which gives too much freedom to women, are the cause of these sex attacks. It has been revealed that every 5 seconds a woman is being sexually assaulted in North America. Women in North America are falling victims of the Democratic Freedom that you they passionly believe in. The reason why a woman gets raped is because of the way she dress. Women dress so provocatively so much that they receive too much attention for themselves and that attention at times leads to death."
http://preliatorcausa.blogspot.com/2...game-3683.html

She is absolutely wrong. Parents should never teach their children to drink in the first place - how stupid.
The victim was stupid but that does not give anyone else the right to be stupid.

Evenuntodeath · #8 06-23-2013, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Tennis player Serena Williams has received a lot of flack and has apologized for statements she made to Rollingstone Mag about a high profile rape case..

My question is, was she right in her first statements?

First off she did say she was not blaming the girl BUT...she added

"I'm not blaming the girl, but if you're a 16-year-old and you're drunk like that, your parents should teach you: Don't take drinks from other people."

and ".. she shouldn't have put herself in that position."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/0...#ixzz2Wz3Kpn5C

Is this blaming the rape victim? Or is this good advice to all girls?

As long as we have a culture where blaming a woman for being raped is ok, rapists will continue to be absolved of blame.

There was a time in western culture when it was not acceptable for women to wear skirts above their ankles, drink, smoke, curse or even be seen out in public without a male companion.

Well, guess what? Women in those days were STILL sexually molested and/or raped.

Rape has occured in the history of mankind regardless of cultural dress code and acceptable behavior for women.

Serena Williams comments were idiotic to say the least. First of all, we don't know if the victim allowed the rapist to buy her a drink. We don't even know if the victim was 'drunk' per se. For all we know, the victim could have been drugged. ***There are rape drugs which give the appearance of a victim being drunk. *** Yet Williams makes assumptions without even knowing all the details. In short, Serena Williams should stick to what she's good at: playing tennis.

Praxeas · #9 06-23-2013, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Evenuntodeath

As long as we have a culture where blaming a woman for being raped is ok, rapists will continue to be absolved of blame.

There was a time in western culture when it was not acceptable for women to wear skirts above their ankles, drink, smoke, curse or even be seen out in public without a male companion.

Well, guess what? Women in those days were STILL sexually molested and/or raped.

Rape has occured in the history of mankind regardless of cultural dress code and acceptable behavior for women.

Serena Williams comments were idiotic to say the least. First of all, we don't know if the victim allowed the rapist to buy her a drink. We don't even know if the victim was 'drunk' per se. For all we know, the victim could have been drugged. ***There are rape drugs which give the appearance of a victim being drunk. *** Yet Williams makes assumptions without even knowing all the details. In short, Serena Williams should stick to what she's good at: playing tennis.

If you read what she said, she did not absolve the rapists nor did she blame the girl. She gave practical advice in light of the fact that there are people out there (male and female) who will take advantage of a girl who is drunk at a party

She was incapacitated by alcohol according to the News reports.

Im not suggesting it's ok to go to a party but it's smart that if you do, make sure you go with people you know you can trust and will have your back.

It's a dangerous world out there and these young people need good practical advice to avoid being victims as well as perpetrators.

You said she could have been drugged...

Serena said "your parents should teach you: Don't take drinks from other people." SOUNDS LIKE GOOD ADVICE TO ME!

Serena didn't speak about how she was dressed.

The fact that women were raped years ago does not change the fact, it supports it...big bad world out there. We all need to be smart because humans are bad and will take advantage of you

Nitehawk013 · #10 06-24-2013, 04:44 AM

There is far more absolving people of irresponsible and stupid actions that put them in jeopardy than there is of blaming the victim in our culture. This girl was an idiot. Now, the guys who assaulted her were scum and they should have gotten a far stiffer penalty, but this girl should never have put herself in that position. You don't go to a party and get so wasted you don't even know where you are or what had happened to you until you see pictures later.

She is responsible for her actions just as those boys are for theirs. They end up in jail, she hopfully learned a very had lesson and will be responsible from now on. Maybe she will use it to try to teach other young girls to be more careful and responsible so others don't go through what she did.