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Old 07-02-2013, 01:28 PM
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I agree that HFC is of the debbel. I think that is about one of the main causes for most of what ails America
Agreed. And, it appears that HFC was developed to use up all the corn crops that were in excess when the government was paying farmers to farm corn. It's of the debbel for sure.

I'm with you on Monsanto, PO. Genetically altered seeds are of the debbel too.
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You think that Monsanto should be lording over our farmers?
you gonna open that can of worms? LOL!

I dont think genetically altered plants is dangerous to humans. DNA is not dangerous to eat.

I do think Monsanto takes a heavy hand and I dont like some of what they do related to that.

if a farmer is planting a non-monsanto crop, harvests his plants and reseeds from his own crop, even if it is polinated by monsanto crops, he should not be forced to give up his seed and I think he should be renumrated by monsanto for thier crossbreeding into his field.

so there are things I dont like about monsanto, and other things that dont bother me.
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It is also interesting that some people cannot eat sugar in any substantial amount or they become immediately addicted and have to break the addiction all over again. While others can eat in moderation.
I'm afraid I'm the addicted type. I've been cutting back and getting rid of anything in the house with sugar. I was like a coke addict one night - - I HAD to have something sweet - - I ended up baking brownies from scratch because it was the only thing I had. Shame on me.
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I'll have to check that out.
If you have that around locally, check the brands. Some of them have a very large amount of sugar - 16 grams. The GT brand has only 2 grams and contains
Folic Acid 25%
Vitamin B2 20%
Vitamin B6 20%
Vitamin B1 20%
Vitamin B3 20%
Vitamin B12 20%
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Agreed. And, it appears that HFC was developed to use up all the corn crops that were in excess when the government was paying farmers to farm corn. It's of the debbel for sure.

I'm with you on Monsanto, PO. Genetically altered seeds are of the debbel too.
can you explain why genetic alteration is bad?
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you gonna open that can of worms? LOL!

I dont think genetically altered plants is dangerous to humans. DNA is not dangerous to eat.

I do think Monsanto takes a heavy hand and I dont like some of what they do related to that.

if a farmer is planting a non-monsanto crop, harvests his plants and reseeds from his own crop, even if it is polinated by monsanto crops, he should not be forced to give up his seed and I think he should be renumrated by monsanto for thier crossbreeding into his field.

so there are things I dont like about monsanto, and other things that dont bother me.
The heavy handedness bothers me greatly, as my father was a farmer. So, any other benefit, they may have, is outweighed by the other. I won't go into the debate on genetically altered plants. It is the same, for me, as the vaccine debate - we should study for ourselves and make up our own minds.
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can you explain why genetic alteration is bad?
Lots of reasons, but I will start with the most important for me, they require a good amount of pesticides, herbicides and fungicides. The simple fact is that this is poisonous and shouldn't be allowed to drain off into our water supply.

Let me come back and add that I find it very strange that Monsanto and this Administration don't want our products "labeled" as being a GMO product? Why would that be if they don't have something to hide? The European Union has banned GMO products in their countries - Japan, Australia, the UK and many others.
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Lots of reasons, but I will start with the most important for me, they require a good amount of pesticides, herbicides and fungicides. The simple fact is that this is poisonous and shouldn't be allowed to drain off into our water supply.

Let me come back and add that I find it very strange that Monsanto and this Administration don't want our products "labeled" as being a GMO product? Why would that be if they don't have something to hide? The European Union has banned GMO products in their countries - Japan, Australia, the UK and many others.
Yes. I read a very good article - I'll see if I can find it tonight.
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The heavy handedness bothers me greatly, as my father was a farmer. So, any other benefit, they may have, is outweighed by the other. I won't go into the debate on genetically altered plants. It is the same, for me, as the vaccine debate - we should study for ourselves and make up our own minds.
I agree with the heavy handedness. I have less fear of GMO products.
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I agree with the heavy handedness. I have less fear of GMO products.
What about genes being more robust when not tampered with? GMO interferes with diversity. Natural plants handle drought, fungus invasions and insects much better than a plant altered and having reduced genetic diversity.

They also haven't proven to be safe. Studies have shown that rats ingesting GMO products clearly show organ deterioration.

Chronic disease is on the rise, because everything begins in the gut.
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