UPCI to remove televsion prohibition...

[Hoovie]

I don't know that I would call it "progress" but it does better reflect reality.

[Jason B]

I think the revision is sensible, and a good step in the right direction for the UPC, even if its 25 years too late.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

I don't know that I would call it "progress" but it does better reflect reality.

I agree. They've allowed the internet, which has content much worse than television; they might as well remove the restrictions on tv.

But it's not progress.

[crakjak]

It is progress only that it put the responsibility for personal holiness right where it belongs, on the individual, actually where it has always been.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by crakjak

It is progress only that it put the responsibility for personal holiness right where it belongs, on the individual, actually where it has always been.

I remember, years ago, visiting one of my sisters who was sharing with me about the recent play she had been involved in. Knowing it had been taped, I told her I'd like to see it. She responded, "Isn't that hypocritical? You are supposed to watch tv."

We watched it, but she wouldn't listen to me explain "balance" because of the "unbalanced" ruling of the organization. So frustrating!

[SOUNWORTHY]

I personally feel that the computer is far more dangerous that TV.

[n david]

IMO, the ban on TV was good for its time; however, the advancement of technology and streaming media has made the ban irrelevant.

Still wouldn't call it progress by definition.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by n david

IMO, the ban on TV was good for its time; however, the advancement of technology and streaming media has made the ban irrelevant.

Still wouldn't call it progress by definition.

Television has way worse content now than it did when the ban was enacted. They should have started with individual responsibility in the first place.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Television has way worse content now than it did when the ban was enacted. They should have started with individual responsibility in the first place.

I definitely agree the content of television is 1,000 times worse than when the ban was put in place, but I would differ on individual responsibility.

We, in 2013, sit here and see the ban as archaic and a bit heavy-handed. I don't believe the enactment of the ban removed individual responsibility. As we know, many pastors and licenses ministers either outright lied or signed an objection, so there was still individual responsibility even with the ban.

I'm likely one of the only people here who doesn't have an issue with "platform standards" or ministerial licensing standards.

I work at a large bank. Whole chapters of my employee handbook are dedicated to my conduct and dress. I have to complete training courses every year on how to conduct myself as a bank representative. Do I fuss and cuss because I'm not allowed to wear ripped jeans and flip flops? I want to be relevant, trendy, and cool! This handbook is such a drag on my coolness factor. It makes me wear dress slacks and a dress shirt Mon-Thurs; and on Fri I can only wear nice jeans without any rips or tears, and no t-shirts unless it's a bank brand t-shirt. So not fair!

I wouldn't think of stomping up to the HR office and demanding they change their conduct or dress codes to be more relevant or up to date. Who wears dress slacks and shirts to work these days anyway? I want to be comfortable while working!

I see platform standards and the affirmation statement as much the same. If you want to be involved in a church; if you want to be licensed by an organization, there will likely be some standards set for you to abide by.

However, where the tv ban fails is the intertwining of streaming media on cell phones, computers and tablets. It makes it impossible to keep the ban.

When it was enacted, it was fine. TV was purely entertainment, and mostly ungodly. So the organization took a stand and said we don't want ministers licensed by us to have a tv. Same as my employer telling me there are certain things I can or cannot do as its representative.

But again, streaming media on cell phones and everything else has nullified the usefulness of the ban.

Still not calling it progress.

[GuitarForJesus]

It will be removed, I am sure, because it is obsolete. You don't really need a television to watch television anymore.