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08-26-2013, 04:01 PM
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Re: Wisdom In Witnessing (or the lack thereof)
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Originally Posted by Ferd
heee hee.... or AOG?
LOLOLOL!
seriously if I had been part of that crowd and heard that, I just might have walked up to the guy and asked if he had recived the HG since he believed. then when he said waaaachuuuutalkingbout? I just might have launched into You are being disobedient. You need to get baptized right, talk in tongues!
get'em all worked up!
LOLOLOL!
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That sounds like something I would say to him  .
Christ told us to be as wise as serpents and gentile as a dove.
If he is AG he is rouge
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08-26-2013, 04:12 PM
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Re: Wisdom In Witnessing (or the lack thereof)
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That sounds like something I would say to him  .
Christ told us to be as wise as serpents and gentile as a dove.
If he is AG he is rouge 
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Our old AG church (mine for a few years and my wifes her whole life) had elements of that. But mainly they were all about legislating the when, how's, why's, and wheres of what a married couple were to do sexually. Apparently an area our fellow poster Esaias, feels needs to be addressed as well.
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08-26-2013, 04:38 PM
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Re: Wisdom In Witnessing (or the lack thereof)
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Our old AG church (mine for a few years and my wifes her whole life) had elements of that. But mainly they were all about legislating the when, how's, why's, and wheres of what a married couple were to do sexually. Apparently an area our fellow poster Esaias, feels needs to be addressed as well.
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Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. (Romans 14:4)
Scripture is its own interpreter. Nothing can cut a diamond but a diamond. Nothing can interpret Scripture but Scripture" Thomas Watson.
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08-26-2013, 06:16 PM
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Re: Wisdom In Witnessing (or the lack thereof)
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Originally Posted by CC1
Do you believe the fact that he had a beer meant he was "a drunk"? If so then your response along with a couple of others on this threads makes me think old time Pentecost is even worse off than I previously thought.
A person can drink alcohol and not be a "drunk". It was not this "christian's" place to make that judgement. I can tell you that the man was clearly not inebriated. he was a 60ish man who was not loud, obnoxious, or anything else. He was just walking and talking quietly with two friends (he was directly ahead of us) when this so called chrisitian started his schtick.
You guys act like this "christian" encountered an obviously drunk man and I am upset at that. That is not the case at all.
If you agree with this method of witnessing your kind are doomed to remain a relatively tiny religious sect who does as much harm to the gospel message as satan does.
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I never said that the man was a drunk I simply stated that if he was drinking beer that was a pretty good sign as to his salvation or lack there of.
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08-26-2013, 06:19 PM
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Re: Wisdom In Witnessing (or the lack thereof)
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I never said that the man was a drunk I simply stated that if he was drinking beer that was a pretty good sign as to his salvation or lack there of.
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08-26-2013, 06:21 PM
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Re: Wisdom In Witnessing (or the lack thereof)
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I would beg to differ with you there because I would add heaven to that list.
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08-26-2013, 06:32 PM
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Re: Wisdom In Witnessing (or the lack thereof)
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I would beg to differ with you there because I would add heaven to that list.
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Ignorance.
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08-26-2013, 06:36 PM
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Re: Wisdom In Witnessing (or the lack thereof)
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Titans lost, huh?

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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-26-2013, 06:47 PM
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Re: Wisdom In Witnessing (or the lack thereof)
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Originally Posted by Jack Shephard
PM or SS, I think it is a laughable thing that these type of people think this is a "soul-winning" method. It's not though. It's a "soul-soothing" method for them only. It make them feel good about themselves by feeling bad for others. I don't get how that mindset can possibly be a valid one, but somehow to some people it is.
If I were you or CC1 I'd have responded with, "Jesus loves you too even though you're a jerk, a judge and just plain rude." If it were me I'd have said something far worse than that. 
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I love this advice and wish I had been quick enough on my feet to have thought of this. However I was out on a beautiful evening with a friend to enjoy a football game so I just kept on walking shaking my head in wonder at the ignorance.
I also think Ferd's advice was good in that I could have turned the tables on them and gone all UPC and demanded to know if they had been baptized in Jesus name and spoke in tongues. Then if they said now I could have loudly condemned them to hell.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-26-2013, 07:44 PM
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Re: Wisdom In Witnessing (or the lack thereof)
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I love this advice and wish I had been quick enough on my feet to have thought of this. However I was out on a beautiful evening with a friend to enjoy a football game so I just kept on walking shaking my head in wonder at the ignorance.
I also think Ferd's advice was good in that I could have turned the tables on them and gone all UPC and demanded to know if they had been baptized in Jesus name and spoke in tongues. Then if they said now I could have loudly condemned them to hell.
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You could have also loudly asked if their wives cut their hair, looked like a harlot, and/or wore MENS's apparel?
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