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Old 08-28-2013, 08:56 AM
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Re: True Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness

Didn''t read the article if the woman is saying there is some supernatural power in hair itself that is absurd. Many of us condemned this as heresy from the beginning. In the FCF days we stood against it. However the Bible clearly teaches a woman is to be covered when praying and prophecying the ONLY defined covering in the chapter is long hair(komao let her hair grow). Newman who was a champion for those who were promoting women cutting their hair put numerous lexicons for the definitions of shorn and nearly everyone of them included cut or cut off. And Sabellious nailed her hide and sent her into oblivion.
Paul taught no church of God allowes women with bobbed hair to worship as a member.
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:12 AM
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Would the magic hair belief be somewhat akin to the romanist practice of antimins or statues of the 'saints' who help them attain answers to prayers?
well, as a member of the UPCI, I can say without question that both of the things you named above are damnable heresy!
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:14 AM
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Didn''t read the article if the woman is saying there is some supernatural power in hair itself that is absurd. Many of us condemned this as heresy from the beginning. In the FCF days we stood against it. However the Bible clearly teaches a woman is to be covered when praying and prophecying the ONLY defined covering in the chapter is long hair(komao let her hair grow). Newman who was a champion for those who were promoting women cutting their hair put numerous lexicons for the definitions of shorn and nearly everyone of them included cut or cut off. And Sabellious nailed her hide and sent her into oblivion.
Paul taught no church of God allowes women with bobbed hair to worship as a member.
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Didn''t read the article if the woman is saying there is some supernatural power in hair itself that is absurd. Many of us condemned this as heresy from the beginning. In the FCF days we stood against it. However the Bible clearly teaches a woman is to be covered when praying and prophecying the ONLY defined covering in the chapter is long hair(komao let her hair grow). Newman who was a champion for those who were promoting women cutting their hair put numerous lexicons for the definitions of shorn and nearly everyone of them included cut or cut off. And Sabellious nailed her hide and sent her into oblivion.
Paul taught no church of God allowes women with bobbed hair to worship as a member.
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right on once again!

Uncut hair is simply obedience. There is POWER in obedience. I didn't need a book or theology steeped in mysticism to get that revelation. Just a heart desiring to do what is right before God and an honest look at I Corinthians 11.

I have heard Bro. Stoneking teach on uncut hair and while I know that he is a little on the finatic side of pretty much anything (not sayin thats a bad thing...just his personality)...I do not believe he is spewing what people are accusing him of. Anyone can take any doctrine or teaching (good or bad) and run with it...making it something it was not intended to be. That is what many (IMO) have done with Bro. Stoneking's teaching on uncut hair.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:11 AM
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Didn''t read the article if the woman is saying there is some supernatural power in hair itself that is absurd. Many of us condemned this as heresy from the beginning. In the FCF days we stood against it. However the Bible clearly teaches a woman is to be covered when praying and prophecying the ONLY defined covering in the chapter is long hair(komao let her hair grow). Newman who was a champion for those who were promoting women cutting their hair put numerous lexicons for the definitions of shorn and nearly everyone of them included cut or cut off. And Sabellious nailed her hide and sent her into oblivion.
Paul taught no church of God allowes women with bobbed hair to worship as a member.
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We have been over this before, Elder...recently as I recall, and NO ONE sent Newman into oblivion.

Respectfully, if you knew Newman, other than a cursory forum glance, you would know that she would not allow anyone to send her packing.

Just saying'...
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:18 AM
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We have been over this before, Elder...recently as I recall, and NO ONE sent Newman into oblivion.

Respectfully, if you knew Newman, other than a cursory forum glance, you would know that she would not allow anyone to send her packing.

Just saying'...
On this we just will disagree. She was indeed a lady and a scholar in her own right. I teased her that she had an alarm on her computer when ever the word 'hair' appeared it rang a bell and she came charging in. I respected her but I was there and after Sab took her arguments apart piece by piece she disappeared. I hope all is well with her this certainly isn't meant as a slam on her I liked her she was always a lady.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:29 AM
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right on once again!

Uncut hair is simply obedience. There is POWER in obedience. I didn't need a book or theology steeped in mysticism to get that revelation. Just a heart desiring to do what is right before God and an honest look at I Corinthians 11.

I have heard Bro. Stoneking teach on uncut hair and while I know that he is a little on the finatic side of pretty much anything (not sayin thats a bad thing...just his personality)...I do not believe he is spewing what people are accusing him of. Anyone can take any doctrine or teaching (good or bad) and run with it...making it something it was not intended to be. That is what many (IMO) have done with Bro. Stoneking's teaching on uncut hair.
WRONG!!! It was endorsed in the Pentecostal Herald.

The UPCI website had a pic posted of a woman praying over an offering basket with her hair.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:31 AM
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On this we just will disagree. She was indeed a lady and a scholar in her own right. I teased her that she had an alarm on her computer when ever the word 'hair' appeared it rang a bell and she came charging in. I respected her but I was there and after Sab took her arguments apart piece by piece she disappeared. I hope all is well with her this certainly isn't meant as a slam on her I liked her she was always a lady.
I was there as well, Elder...yes, we will just disagree.

All seems to be well with Newman and I will pass on your regards when I next speak with her.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:32 AM
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WRONG!!! It was endorsed in the Pentecostal Herald.

The UPCI website had a pic posted of a woman praying over an offering basket with her hair.
Very true...I saw the pic as well. It disgusted me!
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As true apostolic pentacostal, I believe that we should not cut our hair as women, whether is trimmed or bobed. And this is not for my husband, but as my obedience unto God.
That is fine, no problem with that, but to claim that there is some magical power in the hair goes way beyond the scriptures.
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