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Old 10-18-2013, 03:31 PM
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And yet he is just one out of millions of Evangelical type teachers. The Evangelical (Protestant) Movement is the greatest association of cults within Christendom. After you listen to them a while you realize their two main messages. 1. Christ is not the only God. 2. Sin is ok. Sounds a lot like what the Holy Spirit warned about. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. Jude 4
I don't know of any evangelical preachers that teach that sin is ok.
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Old 10-18-2013, 03:34 PM
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Oops, once again -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwsVW8vz10A
Thanks for some good info on a false teacher.
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:09 PM
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I don't know of any evangelical preachers that teach that sin is ok.
I talk to them every week. They almost to a man say everyone sins every day.
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:20 PM
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I talk to them every week. They almost to a man say everyone sins every day.

Well, in that regards they ARE right. The reason being that no one is perfect, other than Mary Poppins, and of course Jesus.
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Well, in that regards they ARE right. The reason being that no one is perfect, other than Mary Poppins, and of course Jesus.
THEY are right? Are you kidding?

I think Apostolic doctrine is right. What did the Apostles teach?

What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Rom. 6:1-2

So if we sin every day pray tell how is that not CONTINUING IN SIN?

If we sin every day how is that not LIVING IN SIN?

How can we be DEAD TO SIN if we cannot stop sinning?
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Old 10-19-2013, 12:24 AM
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. . . if gluttony, worry, foolish jesting, lack of faith, and lust are sins, it's not inconceivable that we fall short at times
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THEY are right? Are you kidding?

I think Apostolic doctrine is right. What did the Apostles teach?

What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Rom. 6:1-2

So if we sin every day pray tell how is that not CONTINUING IN SIN?

If we sin every day how is that not LIVING IN SIN?

How can we be DEAD TO SIN if we cannot stop sinning?
What if you sin once a week? Is that continuing in sin? Once a month?
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Mat 5:27 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery.'
Mat 5:28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
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Mat 5:27 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery.'
Mat 5:28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
So are you insinuating the sin of lust cannot be overcome?

People today have lowered Christs commands and his will so LOW they think the new creation man cannot overcome sin.

Evangelical false doctrine has become so accepted among Pentecostals they have forgotten the standard Jesus himself set for seeing him.

Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. Matt. 5:8

My friends do we not know what a pure heart means? Did Christ have a pure heart?

If so understand that we are called to be just like him!

The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master. Luke 6:40

You see? There is no standard except for Christ.

Saints with a pure heart will see Jesus and enter Heaven. Anyone without a pure heart will be cast into Hell.

Jesus gives us no other options.

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Old 10-19-2013, 06:35 AM
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Is MacArthur both a Calvinist AND a preterist? One of the speakers at the conference is R.C. Sproul who is both.

Actually, I don't care what MacArthur believes, I just wanted to post something.


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