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12-13-2013, 02:04 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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Originally Posted by tv1a
I have yet to read a oneness post that accurately explains the trinitarian position. I have read a number of misrepresentations from oneness elitists.
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Then you have not read much or you yourself dont understand the Trinitarian position
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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12-13-2013, 02:11 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
I understand the trinitarian position perfectly. It's nothing like the oneness apologists. It's not a heaven or hell issue.
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Then you have not read much or you yourself dont understand the Trinitarian position
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12-13-2013, 02:13 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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Lost as two boys kissing......
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Perhaps yes, perhaps not.
I really hope they are not lost, I really want them to be saved.
I do not rejoice or glee to know that someone is lost.
My heart aches to think that millions of Trinitarians are lost, I would prefer to leave it to God to have mercy upon them and accept them in heaven.
The Trinitarians might be wrong about the Godhead and baptism, but since no one has perfect theology, I hope that God may have mercy upon them despite their wrong theology.
I really do not understand how can some of my Oneness brethren rejoice and wish that Trinitarians be lost, what kind of heart do they have, do not they have any pity upon those deceived souls?
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12-13-2013, 02:22 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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Originally Posted by tv1a
I understand the trinitarian position perfectly. It's nothing like the oneness apologists. It's not a heaven or hell issue.
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If that is true then you've not read a large variety of Oneness writings to claim none of us represent their theology accurately
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-13-2013, 02:25 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
I've explained the logic of the oneness doctrine using a Looney Tunes analogy. One side makes the Godhead more relational. The other Godhead view makes God more supernatural.
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Originally Posted by Aquila
I think the average Trinitarian stands a chance. Most think along Oneness lines when they are rooted in the book... even if they fly a Trinitarian flag.
But the Trinitarian theologians and apologists... I'm not so sure.
Sometimes it boils down to semantics regarding how one interprets the word "person".
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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12-13-2013, 02:26 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
I believe that God will sort out all of our doctrinal questions and misunderstandings. He knows the hearts of those whom HE HAS CHOSEN.
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12-13-2013, 03:05 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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Originally Posted by Aquila
I believe that God will sort out all of our doctrinal questions and misunderstandings. He knows the hearts of those whom HE HAS CHOSEN.
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Amen. Um, and if you have 'doctrinal Qs and misunderstandings,' you are going to like the answer, imo.
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12-13-2013, 03:51 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword
Perhaps yes, perhaps not.
I really hope they are not lost, I really want them to be saved.
I do not rejoice or glee to know that someone is lost.
My heart aches to think that millions of Trinitarians are lost, I would prefer to leave it to God to have mercy upon them and accept them in heaven.
The Trinitarians might be wrong about the Godhead and baptism, but since no one has perfect theology, I hope that God may have mercy upon them despite their wrong theology.
I really do not understand how can some of my Oneness brethren rejoice and wish that Trinitarians be lost, what kind of heart do they have, do not they have any pity upon those deceived souls?
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I do not rejoice or glee that they are lost but I preach repentance so they can come out of that false doctrine. We can not just leave it to God just to have mercy on them or the blood will be on our hands for not showing them their error. We ave an obligation to preach agains sin including false doctrine and to preach to them the only saving message.
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12-13-2013, 04:13 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
When talking with trinitarians, it seems they always say they believe in one God, but if you wanta know what a trinny really believes? Ask them, when you "look" into heaven what do you see? Everyone of them that I have talked with say THREE. That's false doctrine.
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12-13-2013, 04:17 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
What about all the oneness folks who live a trinity?
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