End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Sister Alvear]

it says men and women....


Latin Vulgate
8:3 Saulus vero devastabat ecclesiam per domos intrans et trahens viros ac mulieres tradebat in custodiam


King James Version
8:3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed [them] to prison.


American Standard Version
8:3 But Saul laid waste the church, entering into every house, and dragging men and women committed them to prison.


Bible in Basic English
8:3 But Saul was burning with hate against the church, going into every house and taking men and women and putting them in prison.


Darby's English Translation
8:3 But Saul ravaged the assembly, entering into the houses one after another, and dragging off both men and women delivered them up to prison.


Douay Rheims
8:3 But Saul made havock of the church, entering in from house to house, and dragging away men and women, committed them to prison.


Noah Webster Bible
8:3 As for Saul, he made havoc of the church, entering into every house, and hauling men and women committed them to prison.


Weymouth New Testament
8:3 But Saul cruelly harassed the Church. He went into house after house, and, dragging off both men and women, threw them into prison.


World English Bible
8:3 But Saul ravaged the assembly, entering into every house, and dragged both men and women off to prison.


Young's Literal Translation
8:3 and Saul was making havoc of the assembly, into every house entering, and haling men and women, was giving them up to prison;

[Sister Alvear]

Men and Women...

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

So you think only the men were scattered?

Specifically where does this text state that "women were preaching the Word of God to men":__________? It doesn't, it's you once again adding to the Word of God in order to find what's not there inherently.


Besides, I've said over & over that I believe in "women-preachers" in the strict sense of outreaching or witnessing to the lost, as in Mt. 28.19 (& I highly push both men & women to do so) - but this has absolutely nothing to do with the contexts of the epistles & women assuming leadership roles in the church over men by teaching them the authoritative Word of God.


When they do that they're out of their place & in violation of the order of creation...which is serious business in Scripture.

[Sister Alvear]

Acts 8:4 "Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word."

“Went everywhere”: This Greek word is used frequently in Acts for missionary efforts (verse 40; 9:32; 13:6; 14:24; 15:3, 41; 16:6; 18:23; 19:1, 21; 20:2).

who were the THEY? The they were the ones that got away! That is a logicial fact....

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

it says men and women....


Latin Vulgate
8:3 Saulus vero devastabat ecclesiam per domos intrans et trahens viros ac mulieres tradebat in custodiam


King James Version
8:3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed [them] to prison.


American Standard Version
8:3 But Saul laid waste the church, entering into every house, and dragging men and women committed them to prison.


Bible in Basic English
8:3 But Saul was burning with hate against the church, going into every house and taking men and women and putting them in prison.


Darby's English Translation
8:3 But Saul ravaged the assembly, entering into the houses one after another, and dragging off both men and women delivered them up to prison.


Douay Rheims
8:3 But Saul made havock of the church, entering in from house to house, and dragging away men and women, committed them to prison.


Noah Webster Bible
8:3 As for Saul, he made havoc of the church, entering into every house, and hauling men and women committed them to prison.


Weymouth New Testament
8:3 But Saul cruelly harassed the Church. He went into house after house, and, dragging off both men and women, threw them into prison.


World English Bible
8:3 But Saul ravaged the assembly, entering into every house, and dragged both men and women off to prison.


Young's Literal Translation
8:3 and Saul was making havoc of the assembly, into every house entering, and haling men and women, was giving them up to prison;

Exactly - "men and women" who were "in prison" - how on earth you can quote the actual text, then deny what it explicitly says is absolutely mind-boggling - seriously (not being ugly, but honest). The text specifically states that the women were in prison, which you somehow mysteriously interpret to mean they were outside of prison "preaching" every where ?


Besides, even this is not an example of women teaching men in a church setting contra I Tim. 2 & I Cor. 14, but rather winning the lost (regardless, the women were in prison - not outside of prison ?).

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by rdp

Specifically where does this text state that "women were preaching the Word of God to men":__________? It doesn't, it's you once again adding to the Word of God in order to find what's not there inherently.


Besides, I've said over & over that I believe in "women-preachers" in the strict sense of outreaching or witnessing to the lost, as in Mt. 28.19 (& I highly push both men & women to do so) - but this has absolutely nothing to do with the contexts of the epistles & women assuming leadership roles in the church over men by teaching them the authoritative Word of God.


When they do that they're out of their place & in violation of the order of creation...which is serious business in Scripture.

Where does this text say men went everywhere preaching to women?

The text says THEY....The ones that were not put in prison...

Acts 8:4 "Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word."

[Sister Alvear]

Some time before this the Lord had commanded, “Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.” Scattered abroad by persecution, they “went every where preaching the word.”

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Acts 8:4 "Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word."

“Went everywhere”: This Greek word is used frequently in Acts for missionary efforts (verse 40; 9:32; 13:6; 14:24; 15:3, 41; 16:6; 18:23; 19:1, 21; 20:2).

who were the THEY? The they were the ones that got away! That is a logicial fact....

Where does this text say women were preaching to men in a church-setting? Winning the lost, maybe (thought the biblical data does not state that), but you're arguing in favor of women "preaching to men" in the present-day church-setting, not merely witnessing to the lost (which has nothing to do with Paul's clear instructions to the church).


Still waiting on that biblical text which shows women preaching to men out of the Scriptures in the NT church:___________?

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Some time before this the Lord had commanded, “Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.” Scattered abroad by persecution, they “went every where preaching the word.”

Of course, but what does winning the lost have to do with the context of Paul's instructions to the NT church? Besides, it was husbands & wives outreaching - not women preaching to men in a church-setting contra I Tim. 2.


You can never mesh or intermingle contexts & arrive at a doctrinally sound conclusion. That's very poor hermeneutics.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Men and Women...

"In Prison" .