End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sasha

Phoebe was a deaconess...female version of deacon.

I have another question to ask of you later.

I thought we already went through this???

The word translated "deacon" simply means servant. A quick example are the "servants" that were brought to Jesus at Cana.

IMO the early church used that word to fill an official position. IMO to underscore the fact that we are all "servants" of one another. We are not to be lords over God's heritage but servants.

The passage that speaks of Phebe being a servant means simply what it says. She, like Tabitha served the church. Tabitha was raised from the dead for her service and Paul asks them to honor the service of Phebe for her service. That does not mean she held an official position in contradiction to Paul's own qualifications of the official position - that being the husband of 1 wife.

As to the other question... Ask away but be patient. I am going to be very busy for the next few days. I have a Bible study to prepare for, I am tutoring some people in electronics and preparing for a Spanish service for a church a couple hours away. I am trying to get my taxes done as well... Also, I am trying to prepare a manuscript for publication on the new birth and the transition from Jesus name baptism to the titles. I have been off AFF for some time and will probably drop off again until more time permits... I will try to answer any question you may have.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I have hundreds of pages of information just do not have time..

LOL - & every-single "page" has been shown to be chalk-full of outright error & misinformation - just like on this thread.


Your copy-paste jobs are FULL of mistakes & error (in fact, you just made several more errors above in your last copy-paste job above !!). Y'all just never learn - willful ignorance .

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Wow just saw this typo - fixed here... YIKES!

LOL! I totally missed that. Sadly, what you said has been true!

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Let me try it this way - Everyone is a "fisher of men" but only the Bishop/Pastor cleans the fish. I hope that helps.

So, yes or no. Can women preach? I'm not saying lead a church or congregation or anything else.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sasha

So, yes or no. Can women preach? I'm not saying lead a church or congregation or anything else.

Of course women cannot "preach-teach" men in the church...silly question. Scripture could not possibly be clearer .

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Pliny

I thought we already went through this???

The word translated "deacon" simply means servant. A quick example are the "servants" that were brought to Jesus at Cana.

IMO the early church used that word to fill an official position. IMO to underscore the fact that we are all "servants" of one another. We are not to be lords over God's heritage but servants.

The passage that speaks of Phebe being a servant means simply what it says. She, like Tabitha served the church. Tabitha was raised from the dead for her service and Paul asks them to honor the service of Phebe for her service. That does not mean she held an official position in contradiction to Paul's own qualifications of the official position - that being the husband of 1 wife.

I agree that deacons are servant. Truly, that's what we all are, servants to the service of Christ. Some people want to believe that a servant is someone who is scum on the bottom of their shoes, like a slave, someone beneath them.

As to the other question... Ask away but be patient. I am going to be very busy for the next few days. I have a Bible study to prepare for, I am tutoring some people in electronics and preparing for a Spanish service for a church a couple hours away. I am trying to get my taxes done as well... Also, I am trying to prepare a manuscript for publication on the new birth and the transition from Jesus name baptism to the titles. I have been off AFF for some time and will probably drop off again until more time permits... I will try to answer any question you may have.

I'm just wondering something. What 'scriptures' were the NT churches preaching on, considering they were living in the NT time and no NT scripture had yet been written? I see where preaching was done based on things Jesus taught and instructions by the apostles to the churches, but what scriptures were preached in the NT?

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by rdp

Of course women cannot "preach-teach" men in the church...silly question. Scripture could not possibly be clearer .

I don't recall asking you this question, but thanks for your input.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rdp

Will check in tomorrow Prax - Gotta' turn in tonight (long day on the road - wore out). Will just quickly say that, without serious analysis, this would only validate my point (if the premise is correct)!


Women are not to "preach-teach" to men in the church - but alllll should certainly win the lost - though I think it's more ideal for women to win women & men to win men (I've stated this over & over & over & over on this thread).


Also, I completely disagree with you that "preach" & "teach" are not being used interchangeably - the context is clear (unless you're going to say that when Jesus & Paul were not "preaching" while they were "teaching" ?).


More tomorrow!

Im not sure the Women should only win Women deal is practical. Imagine going out door knocking.

Man opens the door

Woman"Sir? Is the Lady of the house home?"

Man: "It's jut me?"

Woman: "Never mind..." woman walks away

They were doing two things, they were teaching AND Preaching...at least that is what your verses say.

As Per the quote, Preaching is mostly in regards to unbelievers.

When they become believers in the gospel, they want to learn and be taught

[Sister Alvear]

some people have such far out ideas....they are so afriad a woman might win a soul...

[Dordrecht]

Men or women cannot win a soul.
The Holy Spirit does.

…and of course the Holy Spirit is male….