End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Pliny]

This is what was quoted by you of me:
Originally Posted by Pliny View Post
If you are referring to the post concerning Apollos, the synagogue has everything to do with it. Its called context. Apollos was at the synagogue and this is where Aquila and Priscilla saw him. AFTERWARDS they spoke with him. See that? Priscilla was not a leader of the synagogue. Indeed she could NOT be. This husband and wife met with Apollos privately - it was not a church service where Priscilla had stepped out of the created order and was teaching Apollos. THEY were witnessing to him.

The difference that seems to elude so many is the difference between a formal teaching event characterized by the assembly of the body and a private moment between people. The difference between a pastor teaching and people witnessing. The elders are to feed the flock, that is with the word of God. Those elders, by qualification, are men.

Originally Posted by Sasha

Was Apollos a leader of the synagogue? And where do you get your ideas above? Paul never said any of those things....that witnessing had to be done outside of the synagogue and there is a difference in formal teaching and private moments with teaching. Sounds pretty silly to say that it's ok for me to privately teach a man about the word of God, but I can't do it in a church.

Its called context and exegesis. Here is the passage:

(Act 18:24 KJV) And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.

This verse tells us Apollos was very knowledgeable in the scriptures. What do you think "mighty in the scriptures" means? He was well versed in them. Therefore what could Aquilla and Priscilla teach him? The next verse tells us:

(Act 18:25 KJV) This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.

He was a disciple of John the Baptist. John the Baptist pointed men to Christ. Apollos needed to know who Christ was.

(Act 18:26 KJV) And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.

Apollos was speaking in the synagogue and Aquila and Priscilla heard him. "They took him unto them", what do you suppose that means? It means they met with him privately.

BTW I did not say Apollos was a leader of the synagogue. I said he was there teaching/preaching and Aquila and Priscilla heard him there. They did not interrupt him. The took him. This is singular and alone, they took him not the synagogue and explained the "way" that is they explained that Jesus was the fulfillment of John's preaching.


I really don't care how silly someone thinks the Bible is. For you to say:
"it's ok for me to privately teach a man about the word of God, but I can't do it in a church."
Tells me you do not understand the difference between the bishop feeding the flock and witnessing. It is this spirit that caused Miriam to be struck with leprosy.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Esther

Do you know why he said for women to be silent? It has nothing to do with teaching. They were asking questions out loud. This was new for them to be in service. Used to be only men.

Would you mind documenting this assertion? It is patently false. The women were in the synagogue as well as men. The difference is the synagogue was divided into a men's section and a women's section. Thus the whole this was "new for them" is patently false.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Esther

Very sad, but I can assure you they are not men of prayer. God is not double minded. He will not call you to minister and go against His Word. If they spent time in prayer with a sincere heart for truth they would see God calls men, women and even some children.

What did Jesus say pray for? Labors. Don't remember Him saying "men" labors.

How absolutely judgmental of you. Do you know me? Do you know RDP? How about the multitudes of other Men of God who do not believe in women preachers? How then can you say we are NOT men of prayer? You can't. Just another example of why women should never be allowed to feed the flock of God. Their doctrine and judgments rest upon appeals to emotion rather than the exegesis of scripture. This is where false doctrine finds a fertile soil. No wonder the only woman teacher of a flock is found in Revelation:

(Rev 2:18 KJV) And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;
(Rev 2:19 KJV) I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.
(Rev 2:20 KJV) Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Esther

What about Lev 21:5. Do men obey this scripture? Or would you rather pick and chose what you want?

Straw man alert!!!

My baldness apparently is in my genetic makeup.
I have not shaved the corners of my beard because I have no beard.
Neither do I make cuts in my flesh.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Esther

In my opinion men who have an issue with women trying to save souls do not have a burden for the lost.

Nice to know your opinion. Also, I agree with it. But your intent is against those who teach against women bishops. Therefore your intentions are due to, and this is not a pejorative, ignorance of the difference between a shepherd feeding a flock and witnessing.

How many times does it have to be said that we should all witness?

Apparently women cannot discern the difference between a shepherd feeding the flock and witnessing.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

If you care so much about this, why don't you trade places with Sister Alvear and you go to Brazil, and she can stay home in the US and type from her home her compliments or complaints about your doctrine.

I would even be willing to contribute to your mission to Brazil, so that you can go and do the work that Sister Alvear is doing.

How about RDP do what he is called of God to do? Would you still support him?

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Esther

Wow the spirit of this post is abusive no love seen here. Sad. But Paul said the letter killeth.

Even if you disagree with Sis Alvear at least be respectful.

No it is not abusive. How many times has it been said that everyone is called to witness? How many times has it been said that we should all strive to be used in the gifts of the Spirit?

I was asked a blunt question and I gave a blunt response. Then explained the reasons why. If you don't want the answer to the question its simple, don't ask the question.

BTW Paul also said the Spirit maketh alive.

I have been respectful and will continue to be. However, there have been statements that have been patently false and many insinuations that those who oppose women preachers are careless people that don't have a burden for the lost. Implications have been made of been prayer-less because we stand for the bible. In spite of the multitudes of times it has been stated that everyone should witness and seek to be used in the gifts of the Spirit. I will no longer tolerate the disrespectful insinuations towards me. I will call them out and I don't care where they come from.

It is disrespectful for Sis. Alvear to insinuate I don't care about the loss. And it is hypocritical of you to say that of me when all I did was answer a blunt question to me.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

There were few pulpits in the early church....mostly house meetings....

Another example of why Sis. Alvear has no idea what she is talking about. A lectern does not make a bishop...

BTW the early Christians went to synagogue on a regular basis. Oh and BTW it was at synagogue where Aquila and Priscilla were listening to Apollos...

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by RJR

And still not one qualification for the ministry that says, she must be the wife of one husband. However, for a widow to be taken into the number this qualification was given.

Isn't it interesting, not one female priest, not one female Apostle chosen by the Lord, not one qualification that was female specific for deacons and bishops. I guess you folks think this was an oversight of the Holy Ghost.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sasha

I think they have an issue with women, period.

How disrespectful...