Hair and Nature?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Very good article.

However, I am immediately reminded of black women and african women who just don't have hair that "covers their neck and ears".

And isn't all of this contigent on the condition that "it is a shame" for a woman to have short hair?

What if it is not a shame for a woman to have short hair? Isn't it interesting to anyone else that at the first church council, the Jewish Apostles didn't include this hair discussion in their list of things the new Gentile converts must do? Is there a cultural "thing" (theirs or ours) to this discussion that we are not taking into consideration?

For example, women must be silent in church and cannot practice rulership over men-- even the most conservative churches do not adhere to "the letter" of these directives.



Some short-ish hairstyles on some women is actually very attractive and still very feminine.

Just like most (if not all) pants designed for women are distinctively feminine in style, cut, etc.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

JFB

1Co 11:14 The fact that nature has provided woman, and not man, with long hair, proves that man was designed to be uncovered, and woman covered. The Nazarite, however, wore long hair lawfully, as being part of a vow sanctioned by God (Num_6:5). Compare as to Absalom, 2Sa_14:26, and Act_18:18.

a commentary

"In 1 Corinthians 11:15 it says that a woman's hair is given to her for a covering, which can also be translated, "instead of a covering." Women express their response to authority with their hair. Long hair symbolizes submission to the authority of the Right Man. Short hair refers to being contentious. And a shaved head represents shame, or one who is jaded." hmm

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Very good article.

However, I am immediately reminded of black women and african women who just don't have hair that "covers their neck and ears".

And isn't all of this contigent on the condition that "it is a shame" for a woman to have short hair?

No, it isn't.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by shazeep

a commentary

"In 1 Corinthians 11:15 it says that a woman's hair is given to her for a covering, which can also be translated, "instead of a covering." Women express their response to authority with their hair. Long hair symbolizes submission to the authority of the Right Man. Short hair refers to being contentious. And a shaved head represents shame, or one who is jaded." hmm

Your commentary is neither biblical nor the truth. There are many women that have long hair that are very contentious without one iota of submission to her husband. While there are many, many women with cut hair that are sweet spirited and cooperative with beautiful attitudes. And of course vise versa.
You focus on "authority", Jesus was a servant leader and He calls us to be the same. It quite simply is not the outward appearance, rather the aroma of a sweet and loving spirit, even the Spirit of Jesus!!
Jesus loved all, He embraced every kind of sinner....of course He did it to make sure the women quit cutting their hair, and the men to cut theirs.....not.
I am quite conservative, but I must tell you your focus is just wrong...

Just get the Spirit of truth, deep in your gut, and whether you are a fashion cookie cutter of external standards or not, that sweet spirit of truth and life will flow right out of you just like a refreshing stream of clear water.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Your commentary...

oh, my bad--not mine. and tho i agree to your descriptions, something rung true in the commentary. no offense to gay women per se, but short hair is viewed as 'dikey.' Long hair is fem, requires attention, maintenance. the last shaved head on a girl i saw was the militant singer lady. Bjork? maybe. sure, they are generalizations. but.

[shazeep]

personally, i find long hair on a woman beautiful, yet am somehow attracted to short-haired women. i like bit...strong-willed women, and for some reason, even tho a woman with long hair might be more strong willed than a random shorty...yada yada. just a reflection, not trying to rep proof. Short haired women are more likely to be CEOs, or in managing positions. is that true? i have no idea, bc i just made it up! it strikes me as a valid generalization.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I don't understand the last part of reaching outside the Greek..

Simply that you are reaching outside of the Greek language to interpret κομάω if you find that "In a number of languages it may be necessary to translate κομάω as ‘to let one’s hair grow long’ or ‘not to cut one’s hair.’"

Newman, was saying she didn't understand why that would be necessary.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by justlookin

I'm assuming you're referencing the hair of Jesus in the picture below? Whould you consider that long hair? How about if that was the hair length on a woman?

I'm just trying to apply the same rule to both men and women considering hair length.

I have one of these signed and dated.



































jk

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

I have one of these signed.



































jk

And I thought my signed Zig Ziglar book, See You At the Top, was special.

[Abiding Now]

I'm not sure of the implication or if there is even a tie in, but I did find it interesting that the word Paul used in I Cor 11:14 for NATURE comes from the same root word that the Apostle uses in Rom. 1:27 for NATURAL.

1Co 11:14 Doth(G2228) not even G3761 nature G5449 itself G846 teach G1321 you,G5209 that,G3754 if G1437 a man G435 have long hair,(G2863) it is G2076 a shame G819 unto him? G846

Rom 1:27 And G5037 likewise G3668 also G2532 the G3588 men,G730 leaving G863 the G3588 natural G5446 use G5540 of the G3588 woman,G2338 burned G1572 in G1722 their G848 lust G3715 one toward another;G240 G1519 men G730 with G1722 men G730 working G2716 that which is unseemly,G808 and G2532 receiving G618 in G1722 themselves G1438 that recompence G489 of their G848 error G4106 which G3739 was meet.G1163

G5446φυσικός
phusikos
foo-see-kos'

From G5449; “physical”, that is, (by implication) instinctive: - natural.
Compare G5591.