End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

and for the record that is what I have been many years to many of the villages of Brazil...I too have never claimed to be a preacher only a voice....

Oh yes only a voice, a voice that emphasizes such phrases as "authoritative messages, women giving orders to men, female chief, women preachers," yes yes yes, a harmless little voice that encourages disdain for passages such as...

Let you women keep silence in the churches, for it is not permitted unto them to speak, but they are commanded to be under obedience...
Let her learn in silence with all subjection.
I suffer not a woman to teach nor to usurp authority over the man.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Lol...I never said Deborah was a woman preacher I said she was a judge and prophetess...

ROTFL!!!

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

yes women did help him in the ministry he said so....

Philippians 4:3

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And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.

- King James Bible "Authorized Version", Cambridge Edition

I bet you also tell people that support the work in Brazil with their money that they are fellow-laborers with the work there.

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Pliny

I bet you also tell people that support the work in Brazil with their money that they are fellow-laborers with the work there.

Lol...good one!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Pliny

I bet you also tell people that support the work in Brazil with their money that they are fellow-laborers with the work there.

Why not? Thank God someone is reaching souls there

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by shazeep

Pure conjecture. Deborah was a Judge, if i'm not wrong...nope. So, God appoints a judge who cannot pastor. While the offices are certainly separate in our time, to our shame, to even suggest this smacks of heresy in the time when Israel had judges rather than a king. i detect a doctorate lurking back there. i would bet $ on it (it's worthless anyway )

pure hubris, as is suggesting that any woman could never speak in church. but of course the one lording it over would not want competition, and the tone of your posts has defeated you. you think to codify the spirit, who can raise pastors from rocks. you ignore a time for everything under heaven. You forget Christ's condemnation of the Pastor/Judges of His day. You fail to connect that Love now presides over us, and overrides tradition. If you cannot contend over another believer's Holi-days, how do you imagine that you might even comment upon a pastor bearing fruit. it sinks to sin.

and then you proffer dichotomous jokes. really. i am not comfortable with a woman pastor, and am now forced to go and discover my blind spot there. yikes.

You do realize how the Bible explains the "judging" of Deborah right? Scripture makes the point of stating she is a prophetess judge. What is striking is that she is not like the other judges aside from being a woman. The fact that she is a woman tells us two important things:
1) The state at which Israel had fallen, no men were apparently willing to be men. Barak is an object lesson there.
2) That there was a godly woman that God could and did use as a prophetess judge.

Her dealing with Barak gives us insight into the ministration of her judgeship. She told Barak and ostensibly the children of God the mind of God.

This is far different from "preaching" of whom S. Alvear has even admitted she was not a preacher. So to continue to bring up someone, in S. Alvear's case, that is admittedly not a preacher is simply ignorant in context of the thread.

The fact that Deborah was a "prophetess judge" tells us the the kind of judgeship she had. This is something myself, RDP and RJR have steadfastly stood for. Everyone, including women, should seek to serve God and be used in the gifts of the Spirit.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Why not? Thank God someone is reaching souls there

You missed the whole point! Not surprising...

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by RJR

Oh yes only a voice, a voice that emphasizes such phrases as "authoritative messages, women giving orders to men, female chief, women preachers," yes yes yes, a harmless little voice that encourages disdain for passages such as...

Let you women keep silence in the churches, for it is not permitted unto them to speak, but they are commanded to be under obedience...
Let her learn in silence with all subjection.
I suffer not a woman to teach nor to usurp authority over the man.

Facts are pesky little things...

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

you have not even answered the first question on this topic...

The Lord announces the word, and the women who proclaim it are a mighty throng:

New Living Translation
The Lord gives the word, and a great army brings the good news.

English Standard Version
The Lord gives the word; the women who announce the news are a great host:

New American Standard Bible
The Lord gives the command; The women who proclaim the good tidings are a great host:

King James Bible
The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
The Lord gave the command; a great company of women brought the good news:"

International Standard Version
The Lord issues a command. Numerous are the women who announce the news:

NET Bible
The Lord speaks; many, many women spread the good news.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Lord Jehovah will give the word of the Gospel in great power!

GOD'S WORD® Translation
The Lord gives instructions. The women who announce the good news are a large army.

Jubilee Bible 2000
The Lord shall give a word; great shall be the host of the evangelists thereof.

King James 2000 Bible
The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.

American King James Version
The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.

American Standard Version
The Lord giveth the word: The women that publish the tidings are a great host.

Douay-Rheims Bible
The Lord shall give the word to them that preach good tidings with great power.

Darby Bible Translation
The Lord gives the word: great the host of the publishers.

English Revised Version
The Lord giveth the word: the women that publish the tidings are a great host.

Webster's Bible Translation
The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.

World English Bible
The Lord announced the word. The ones who proclaim it are a great company.

Young's Literal Translation
The Lord doth give the saying, The female proclaimers are a numerous host.

Yet another object lesson as to why women should not be preachers. There is no understanding of fundamental exegesis. ROTFL! Even several of the versions displayed do not include the translation of women. LOL!

However, women did proclaim great things in Israel:
(1Sa 18:7 KJV) And the women answered one another as they played, and said, Saul hath slain his thousands, and David his ten thousands.

(Exo 15:20 ESV) Then Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a tambourine in her hand, and all the women went out after her with tambourines and dancing.

(Exo 15:21 ESV) And Miriam sang to them: "Sing to the LORD, for he has triumphed gloriously; the horse and his rider he has thrown into the sea."


It is ignorant to say women in the OT were preachers and teachers of men when that never happened. The male Levite's fulfilled that function.
(Deu 10:8 ESV) At that time the LORD set apart the tribe of Levi to carry the ark of the covenant of the LORD to stand before the LORD to minister to him and to bless in his name, to this day.

(Deu 24:8 ESV) "Take care, in a case of leprous disease, to be very careful to do according to all that the Levitical priests shall direct you. As I commanded them, so you shall be careful to do.

(Deu 33:10 ESV) They shall teach Jacob your rules and Israel your law; they shall put incense before you and whole burnt offerings on your altar.

(2Ch 35:3 ESV) And he said to the Levites who taught all Israel and who were holy to the LORD, "Put the holy ark in the house that Solomon the son of David, king of Israel, built. You need not carry it on your shoulders. Now serve the LORD your God and his people Israel.


(2Ch 17:7 ESV) In the third year of his reign he sent his officials, Ben-hail, Obadiah, Zechariah, Nethanel, and Micaiah, to teach in the cities of Judah;
(2Ch 17:8 ESV) and with them the Levites, Shemaiah, Nethaniah, Zebadiah, Asahel, Shemiramoth, Jehonathan, Adonijah, Tobijah, and Tobadonijah; and with these Levites, the priests Elishama and Jehoram.
(2Ch 17:9 ESV) And they taught in Judah, having the Book of the Law of the LORD with them. They went about through all the cities of Judah and taught among the people.

(Neh 8:7 ESV) Also Jeshua, Bani, Sherebiah, Jamin, Akkub, Shabbethai, Hodiah, Maaseiah, Kelita, Azariah, Jozabad, Hanan, Pelaiah, the Levites, helped the people to understand the Law, while the people remained in their places.
(Neh 8:8 ESV) They read from the book, from the Law of God, clearly, and they gave the sense, so that the people understood the reading.

I fully expect this will be ignored as is typically the case when facts are brought into the equation...

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Incredibly, the Jewish religious authorities taught that a man should not salute a woman, not even his own wife, in a public place... In the Talmud, we read the statement of Rabbi Eliezer.. that “It is better that the words of the Law should be burned, than that they should be given to a woman.”.. The same rabbi, writing in the Mishnah, adds the following directive: “If a man gives his daughter a knowledge of the Law, it is as though he taught her lechery.”.. And Rabbi Judah’s famous prayer contained
the following words: “Blessed be You for
not having made me a Gentile, a
woman, or an ignoramus (Tosephta
Berakoth, 7, 18).

All the more reason to reject any notion of a woman preaching to men in the OT. ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!