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03-05-2014, 09:22 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
I am called to be a missionary...
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03-05-2014, 09:24 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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No need for 1 Cor 11 instructions on hair, because Sis Avear says no male or female in Christ. Sis Alvear, we will not be surprised to see you wearing that which pertains to a man, since you say no male or female in Christ. Put your endorsement on same sex marriages, since in Christ there is no males or females. No head of the woman, since there is no males or females in Christ.
Obviously, the reference is the message is the same to females-males, young-old, jews-gentiles, free-slave.
Since 1 Tim is talking about the home. A woman must learn in silence in the home. She cannot ask her husband in the home, unless in full agreement with him, because she is to learn in silence with ALL SUBJECTION. In spite of the fact 1 Cor 14 tells her to ask her husband at home. Since according to Sis Alvear, 1 Tim 2 is about the home, dealing with husband and wife, I guess only single women can preach because a married women cannot exercise authority over the man.
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I did not say I endorse same sex marriages....you are twisting my words. You know better than that.
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03-05-2014, 09:24 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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I am called to be a missionary...
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.... and there is not ONE SINGLE VERSE that prohibits a woman from being a missionary, but more than enough scripture to support it!
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03-05-2014, 09:25 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Next we will examine 1 Timothy 2:12, in which Paul states "I do not suffer (permit) a woman to teach, or usurp authority over a man." In interpreting this verse, it is important to remember that the Greek words for "man" and "husband," as well as the words for "woman" and "wife," are the same. In the very next verse, Paul refers back to Adam being formed first, then Eve. From all indications, this passage is, by context, referring to the marriage relationship, not the church. Paul is not saying that men cannot learn from women. Rather, he is simply stating that women are not to be manipulative or domineering over their husbands. There is a big difference.
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So only single women can preach because a married women had to be in silence while learning with all subjection. This married woman had to be in silence in the home, when 1 Cor 14 tells her this is the one place to ask her husband if she had a question at church.
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03-05-2014, 09:25 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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I did not say I endorse same sex marriages....you are twisting my words. You know better than that.
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You said no male or female in Christ. They are all one, remember?
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03-05-2014, 09:37 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
Paul said that but he was not endorsing shames ex marriage...you know that...
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03-05-2014, 09:48 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Paul said that but he was not endorsing shames ex marriage...you know that...
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Neither was he promoting gender sameness, but rather was stating this message is for all. One message regardless of culture and gender.
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03-05-2014, 09:49 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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It is ironic that people twist Paul's words "I do not permit a woman to teach" ( 1 Tim. 2:12, NKJV) in order to make a blanket prohibition against women teaching men, when in 2 Timothy 1:5 Paul commends Lois and Eunice for teaching Timothy the faith!....
Yes, and go study what age a male was considered a man....
Women teach in every church...a song, in testimony of how they trusted God for something...women teach SS school classes and even pray in loud voices....they cannot find a scripture saying women do not preach....they want to make one say something it does not say...
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Sis Alvear, could you explain what is meant by the bolded?
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03-05-2014, 09:56 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
Yes I will as soon as get where I can use a computer...
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03-05-2014, 10:31 AM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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You can't produce one that explicitly says, "Women shalt not preach". There is not one that says "women, thou shalt preach". Therefore, this whole argument is moot. 
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.... and there is not ONE SINGLE VERSE that prohibits a woman from being a missionary, but more than enough scripture to support it! 
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Can you point me to the passage that (EXPLICITLY, your word used above) supports women missionaries. How about this KEPTBYTHEWORD, can you even find the term missionary in your Bible, being that the explicit term has to be used for you to find validation?
A woman indeed is forbidden to teach men, and is required not to speak in church, speak being translated 6 times preach in other passages. I know you don't like being reminded of what is written, but if you keep your eyes closed it still isn't going anywhere!
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