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[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

No sir you are the one whose is blind.

I have God's Word right here and study it daily. I know what we in the UPC and other good oneness holiness churches preach is truth and there is no other way.

Like I said, you are blind and deceived. You are basing Facts on Myth, which is nothing but Spectral Evidence. Until you can "Prove" your truth, you are following a fantasy of ideas that cannot be verified by substance, experience, and reality.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Ferd

so now you have a god complex? zzzzzzzzzzzzzz


you sir are nothing like Jesus.

Actually, I am like Jesus. We are both Human.

That's the problem with Religion; people are trying NOT to be Human.

[n david]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Actually, I am like Jesus. We are both Human.

[AR Pastor]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Like I said, you are blind and deceived. You are basing Facts on Myth, which is nothing but Spectral Evidence. Until you can "Prove" your truth, you are following a fantasy of ideas that cannot be verified by substance, experience, and reality.

So you sir do not believe God's Word is real?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

I have tried to point this out so many times on this Forum. After 35 years in the UPCI, the word, "United", became a misnomer with me. When I was a pastor, the phone would ring, and it would be another pastor who did nothing but bash the neighboring UPC Church.

If it wasn't Standards, it was "Sheep Stealing", or compromised preaching. I was so sick of hearing this nonsense, I finally stopped answering the phone so I didn't have to listen to this Religious rhetoric that is so prevalent in Christianity.

Regardless of what people believe, this strife runs deep in the realm of Religion for one, simple reason; Facts based upon Myth.

We pastored too, for 10 years. I think you get to see very interesting things when you pastor.

[MawMaw]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Amen. Carlton Pearson's doctrine. Not one person from Pentecost until the church leaves is saved withou obeying Acts 2:38.

Yes, indeed.

Not sure why there are those
who buck against scripture that is
so plain to understand.

[AR Pastor]

I have pastored for around 20 years been in the ministry 30 years.

See a lot of things, not all of them good, but God is always good. And His Word is true.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by ILG

We pastored too, for 10 years. I think you get to see very interesting things when you pastor.

Amen! After 20 years of doing this very stressful endeavor, I finally had had enough of Religion.

In fact, the light came on after years and years of watching people do what they do, all while they are "Walking in the Truth". I saw in myself a great fallacy, preaching against certain things that only end up being the same thing, in another way.

Human Beings can't stand not "Knowing", so they seek for someone who will go into the beyond, even if the idea is fake.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Amen! After 20 years of doing this very stressful endeavor, I finally had had enough of Religion.

In fact, the light came on after years and years of watching people do what they do, all while they are "Walking in the Truth". I saw in myself a great fallacy, preaching against certain things that only end up being the same thing, in another way.

Human Beings can't stand not "Knowing", so they seek for someone who will go into the beyond, even if the idea is fake.

All people have sin that they are struggling with, even after salvation (but salvation delivers and strengthens one for the fight). What if, because the Bible teaches against gluttony, a religion made people get on a scale and if their BMI was so far up, they would tell them they were going to hell? And told others they were backslid? Then, when people said "You shouldn't say when people are saved or not" this person could say "It's Bible brother!! Do you want to not teach what the Bible teaches????" Completely missing the point, that salvation does not belong to someone else to measure. And that salvation is by grace. People focus on something so much, they convince themselves that God does too, just because it's in the Bible.

[shazeep]

yup.

Originally Posted by MawMaw

Yes, indeed.

Not sure why there are those
who buck against scripture that is
so plain to understand.

it seems to me that it is not Scripture being bucked against, necessarily, so much as others' understanding of it, and the lack of tolerance of this. I think it can be really easy to say "No one makes it unless they obey the following instructions; __________________. Without, possibly, really fully understanding those instructions, but rather defending the interpretation that one (generally) was first given by some trusted senior. Doesn't mean they were wrong, and another right; but it may indicate that there are more than one way to interpret. I think there usually is. How many Names does Christ have? Are you sure? What if the word translated name there is better translated essence, to denote a spiritual acceptance? God is Love; would you condemn someone, some sheep who was told ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world' because they were not baptized according to your standards? Is the question.