Heaven is for Real Movie

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by crakjak

I don't defend it, because I disagree with most of the theology that the family espouses.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You're a very worldly man.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by crakjak

You're a very worldly man.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

CJ in Acts 2:38 Peter told them to repent on the day of Pentecost, in Acts 17:30 the Apostle Paul addresses the Areopagus concerning the false doctrines among the Greeks, and states that in the past God overlooked the ignorance of men, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. CJ, your teaching causes more questions then it answers.

While your doctrine is fine for Hindus (in Hinduism even demons can obtain a salvation) but in Christianity your teaching hits a wall. Sorry, but Jesus commanded that all men REPENT! Yet, sadly that isn't what some men what to do. Hence freewill plays in this, but in Hinduism and Calvinism there isn't any freewill but fate, either you are predestined to hell or heaven.

Yet, in your paradigm you hold a sort of Hyper Calvinism (to be honest what you believe stands Hyper Calvinism on its head) your teaching places everyone from sinner to saint ending up in heaven. Jesus said it was finished at the cross, but the book of Acts still have a ministry baptizing and commanding all to repent.

Repentance is necessary to enter into life, our response is very important, but it is not our response that saves us. Our response is simply entering into what Jesus has already completed. No problem here with the book of Acts. "AS IN ADAM....." the many were condemned, "LIKEWISE IN CHRIST...." the many are given life. The same MANY in both cases, "...with GOD all things are possible....." My question still stands, "HOW COULD THE ACT OF ONE OF HIS CREATURES CONDEMN THE WHOLE OF THE HUMAN RACE, YET THE ACT OF THE SON OF GOD DOSEN'T?" Oh, you of little faith!!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Repentance is necessary to enter into life, our response is very important, but it is not our response that saves us. Our response is simply entering into what Jesus has already completed. No problem here with the book of Acts.

Please explain what YOU mean by "our response?"

[Evang.Benincasa]

CJ what is your definition of repentance?

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

CJ what is your definition of repentance?

Come to faith in the finished work of Christ, acknowledge the error of one's ways, and commit to walk with Him. As one walks with Him, studying the Word and allowing the Spirit to guide and fill them, His righteousness becomes a natural outflowing of relationship with the Living God. Baptism is important to public acknowledge ones commitment to follow Jesus, and embrace His earthly body and community.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Come to faith in the finished work of Christ, acknowledge the error of one's ways, and commit to walk with Him. As one walks with Him, studying the Word and allowing the Spirit to guide and fill them, His righteousness becomes a natural outflowing of relationship with the Living God. Baptism is important to public acknowledge ones commitment to follow Jesus, and embrace His earthly body and community.

CJ, so your meaning of "it is not our response that saves us?"

Please explain this thought?

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Please explain what YOU mean by "our response?"

Nothing we do saves us, Jesus has already completed that. However, our response is necessary to actually enter into the life that is possible because of that finished work of God.

Christians do all kinds of things to "please" God, it is all "filthy rags" to make us right with God. Muslims, Buddhists, and your favorite Hindus, also do all kinds of things to try to "please" God. It is all worthless to save.

However, if one says they believe and continue in their sin, they reap the harvest not of the life that is theirs in Christ.

If I really believe, I will also pursue knowing God and desiring His righteous fruit in my life, trusting Him to bring it about.

All worldly religions believe in an angry God, bent on punishment, rather than the true God, who is for us, and always has been. The delusion in human minds, are in the manmade gods, mythological god of manmade religion.

The wrath of God was/is on the evil that has overtaken his creation, and Jesus Christ is His response. Jesus was literally God entering into His creation to UNDO Adam, and He has cured the disease, sin and death are defeated, and will soon be completely destroyed, then God will be "...ALL IN ALL..." Then "... every knee will bow and every mouth will confess...to the glory of God the Father..."
He entered into the creation, took on our sin, darkness, and our death, and He will completely redeem the WHOLE creation, which is the result of His completed work at the cross, and just as importantly the incarnation.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Repentance is necessary to enter into life, our response is very important, but it is not our response that saves us. Our response is simply entering into what Jesus has already completed. No problem here with the book of Acts. "AS IN ADAM....." the many were condemned, "LIKEWISE IN CHRIST...." the many are given life. The same MANY in both cases, "...with GOD all things are possible....." My question still stands, "HOW COULD THE ACT OF ONE OF HIS CREATURES CONDEMN THE WHOLE OF THE HUMAN RACE, YET THE ACT OF THE SON OF GOD DOSEN'T?" Oh, you of little faith!!

WOW! How did I miss all this?

You see this is where you get into question begging.

You state since sin was brought into the world by one ADAM therefore by one JESUS we ALL gain salvation? In your system, since we didn't do anything "personally" to be damned therefore we don't have to anything "personally" to be saved? Is this what you are saying yes, or no?