Matthew 24 fulfilled - Page 4

Truthseeker · #31 10-09-2014, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Matthew 24:34 GNB Remember that all these things will happen before the people now living have all died.

Yep

mfblume · #32 10-10-2014, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Yep

No on ever remarks about that version's interpretation

Sean · #33 10-10-2014, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

No on ever remarks about that version's interpretation

Just Google it, its a joke, like the 50 or so "other" versions that were invented to fit the authors' theology. You are really desperate Mike to use that junk. Look the the KJV and notice it says something quite different.

Two opposing passages, hmmm. The Received Text version(KJV) is the reliable text ONLY, especially in these cases.

Matt 24:34....Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.....KJV

Matt 24 :34.... 34 Remember that all these things will happen before the people now living have all died....GNB

HMMMMMMMMMM....!!!!!!, That will definitely satisfy copyright laws....LOL

mfblume · #34 10-10-2014, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Just Google it, its a joke, like the 50 or so "other" versions that were invented to fit the authors' theology. You are really desperate Mike to use that junk. Look the the KJV and notice it says something quite different.

Two opposing passages, hmmm. The Received Text version(KJV) is the reliable text ONLY, especially in these cases.

Matt 24:34....Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.....KJV

Matt 24 :34.... 34 Remember that all these things will happen before the people now living have all died....GNB

HMMMMMMMMMM....!!!!!!, That will definitely satisfy copyright laws....LOL

I believed it meant that before I even knew another version flatly stated it. "This" meant the one to whom he spoke. He did not say "that." It's simple English.

Preachers who aren't even preterist can see that.

Sean · #35 10-10-2014, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I believed it meant that before I even knew another version flatly stated it. "This" meant the one to whom he spoke. He did not say "that." It's simple English.

Preachers who aren't even preterist can see that.

That Bible is a complete mess, that is riddled with biased opinionated concepts. Mike do you know how this and the other non recieved text Bibles came about? They are all under copyright laws and each one must say something different from each other to the tune of 50,000 words, That means that the 50 or so bibles out there have a differing point of view 50 different ways.

You or I could make a Bible with that kind of understanding. All we have to do is get the 50 Bibles and make sure our Bible is different by at least 15% of the 50 others'. It will sell to the folks that believe like we interpret it to say,
Remember, ALL of these Bibles, other than the KJV have modern day AUTHORS that are behind them all. None of these authors will create their version contrary to their beliefs.

The KJV is completely different, in that it was ordered to be copied from thousands of agreeing manuscripts, using 54 translators. They had to agree, line by line to get the final passages resolved.

This may educate you on the subject some.... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...77161500,d.cGU

BTW...The KJV, derived from the Textus Receptus, has NEVER been under any kind of copyright law. It is the Word of God. It is the Bible that the Lord has preserved for our generation. All the others are nothing less than counterfeits, derived from a discarded manuscript found in Egypt(Alexandrian text).

Anybody interested should watch this...it will "fix" your beliefs about the right Bible to read....https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=KbikBVVkrNA

mfblume · #36 10-10-2014, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

[COLOR="Red"]That Bible is a complete mess, that is riddled with biased opinionated concepts.

Like I said, I concluded the same thing from KJV study of the passage. That version had no bearing on my conclusions. I found it agreed later!

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Mike do you know how this and the other non recieved text Bibles came about? They are all under copyright laws and each one must say something different from each other to the tune of 50,000 words, That means that the 50 or so bibles out there have a differing point of view 50 different ways.

Obviously that made no difference in my analysis of the KJV version of that passage. I have done much study on the received text and manuscript evidence, btw. I know how the TR is superior.

Ever Read Edward HIlls' THE KJV DEFENDED?

Sean · #37 10-10-2014, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Like I said, I concluded the same thing from KJV study of the passage. That version had no bearing on my conclusions. I found it agreed later!

Obviously that made no difference in my analysis of the KJV version of that passage. I have done much study on the received text and manuscript evidence, btw. I know how the TR is superior.

Ever Read Edward HIlls' THE KJV DEFENDED?

I know what you believe Mike, I was surprised that you "tossed" that guys' "commentary" bible out there. I kinda thought you were a KJV guy like me.
I was worried that Pastor Febus was getting the best of you for a minute...LOL

Truthseeker · #38 10-10-2014, 08:51 PM

Matthew 24:33 KJV

So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

What does the word you mean in this text?

Sean · #39 10-10-2014, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Matthew 24:33 KJV

So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

What does the word you mean in this text?

"YOU" is the saints that would ACTUALLY SEE these events described prior to the passage. These events that HAVE NOT HAPPENED yet.

To clarify, if WE(you and I), see the signs here.....

1 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Then, when we BEGIN to see these things happen...LOOK UP!...

Luke 21:28

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Truthseeker · #40 10-10-2014, 10:06 PM

He said "when ye (you) see these things" clear he was speaking of them he spoke to.