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Old 10-14-2014, 09:51 PM
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We are no where close to being sovietized, brother.
You're asleep and sadly mistaken. Take 5 mins and google "10 planks of the Communist Manifesto" (like 5 mins of reading) and see how many they have accomplished here in America. Open your eyes and wake up!
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:10 AM
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If the churches were becoming politically involved to the extent disallowed because of their 501c3, then I could see such being subpoenaed. That is what they agreed to when they chose to become a 501c3 entity.

If it is something other than this, then it is wrong. Churches are permitted to preach about homosexuality and gender identity. But if they cross the line into certain political involvement, then they do so at their own cost.
Isn't that the IRS's Job?

They have no agreement with the city of Houston
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:13 AM
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Interesting thought. I don't believe anything like that will be in the near future, but down the road.....'tis a possibility.

It sounded like the gay mayor may be searching for churches that speak directly about their position and to vote them out or anything else that would be crossing the current line.

This is what the IRS states about the status- You "may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates."
It's the IRS's Job, not the Mayors or Houston
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Simply a 501c3 entity cannot speak against government policy.
I think they can. They can't endorse a candidate. In other words they can't try to tell people how to vote
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:18 AM
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Rick Perry is a NWO stooge. Just look what he did to Texas citizens in the NAFTA superhighway debacle:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2762633/posts
He's like all the rest in high political circles - sold out to get to get to where he is and compromised in that he does what he's told.
NAFTA was a long LONG time ago. Maybe he was ignorant

BTW Rush Limbaugh was for it too
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Re: Inquisition in Houston, TX

I think the pulpit should be used for the word of God only, not politics. A minister could run off a conservative(union) democrat from his congregation bashing democrats. The world can be won through conversions, not politics.(we cant legislate morality)
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but isn't that on a federal level? Or are they exempt from city taxes?
I'm guessing but I think it is at all levels.
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Re: Inquisition in Houston, TX

One man at American Family Association proposed the gay flag is the mark of the beast. He argues people are losing careers, businesses and one girl was ousted out of her college class for refusal to comply to gay events by making wedding cakes, etc., etc. In other words, you cannot buy or sell unless you accept the gay agenda.

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do you think that government approved preaching is coming down the line to keep 501c3 status?
What do you mean by government approved? I don't believe ministers will have to submit sermons for approval, but I do believe it's coming where any sermon preached could be later scrutinized and the church or minister fined/jailed for an alleged "hate crime."

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The part about women and men being able to use either bathroom really just makes me sick!
Phoenix City Council approved the same type of resolution earlier this year. There was a little opposition, but not much.

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It's the IRS's Job, not the Mayors or Houston
Correct, though I agree with Todd Starnes from FoxNews: this is mostly about the Mayor trying to shame these Pastors and churches and label them bigots. It's the new scarlet letter now.

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I think the pulpit should be used for the word of God only, not politics. A minister could run off a conservative(union) democrat from his congregation bashing democrats. The world can be won through conversions, not politics.(we cant legislate morality)
I agree to an extent. A minister could also run off a rich man by preaching against the love of money. Any kind of message could turn anyone off. Preaching on tithes could turn off most of the posters here.

I have several PAW and independent oneness friends who have been baptized and filled with the Holy Ghost and yet continue to support the current occupier of the White House. Sometimes not even conversion can save people.
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:30 AM
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Being incorporated [501c3] has some legal protections from lawsuits?
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