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Old 10-17-2014, 02:49 PM
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NC magistrate resigns over same-sex marriage

AWESOME letter of resignation!! Kudos to him!

Christian NC magistrate resigns over same-sex marriage

It is with deep regret that I must inform you of my intent to resign from my current position as Magistrate effective 31 October 2014. It is my intent to use my remaining administrative days for the remainder of this month. When I took my oath of office, I understood I would be required to perform weddings and have done so throughout my tenure. I did not however take that oath with any understanding that I would be required to marry same sex couples. It is my personal belief and a position of my Christian faith that doing so would desecrate a holy Institution established by God Himself. Since performing marriages is an integral part of being a Magistrate and in light of recent changes in North Carolina law. I can no longer fulfill my oath of office in good faith.

I will contact Mr Pegram’s office to insure all necessary paper work is completed and all items belonging to the State and/or county are completed and/or returned. I have enjoyed working with all the fine people at the Rockingham County Courthouse. I wish you all the best as you continue in your quest to administer justice in a fair and impartial manner. I am reminded of the last words of David who said, “He that rules over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God”. Where there is no “fear of God” there can be no justice!

Sincerely,

John G. Kallam, Jr.

http://therightscoop.com/christian-n...-sex-marriage/
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Old 10-17-2014, 08:29 PM
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This is going to be a nationwide issue for christians employed by government. The mainstream doesn't care. They want christians to be quiet and move out of the way.
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Bravo, Kallam!
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Re: NC magistrate resigns over same-sex marriage

This might be the beginning of Christians having no jobs thence no money to buy anything.

So that no one may buy or sell unless they have the mark of the beast.

I just wonder how long it will take for no jobs to be available to Christians unless they are willing to compromise their beliefs.
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This might be the beginning of Christians having no jobs thence no money to buy anything.

So that no one may buy or sell unless they have the mark of the beast.

I just wonder how long it will take for no jobs to be available to Christians unless they are willing to compromise their beliefs.
Why worry about such things?

Do we have faith in God to take care of our needs or not?

Seeing that He provided manna, water, and the other necessities for the Israelites during their trek in the wilderness, will He not also care for us? I haven't the least doubt that He is fully capable of doing so, and will!

BTW, I applaud the Magistrate. His boldness in standing up for his beliefs are truly commendable!
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Amen, Lafon!
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This might be the beginning of Christians having no jobs thence no money to buy anything.

So that no one may buy or sell unless they have the mark of the beast.

I just wonder how long it will take for no jobs to be available to Christians unless they are willing to compromise their beliefs.
Wadr, if you use dollars, you are a willing participant in usury already.
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AWESOME letter of resignation!! Kudos to him!

Christian NC magistrate resigns over same-sex marriage

It is with deep regret that I must inform you of my intent to resign from my current position as Magistrate effective 31 October 2014. It is my intent to use my remaining administrative days for the remainder of this month. When I took my oath of office, I understood I would be required to perform weddings and have done so throughout my tenure. I did not however take that oath with any understanding that I would be required to marry same sex couples. It is my personal belief and a position of my Christian faith that doing so would desecrate a holy Institution established by God Himself. Since performing marriages is an integral part of being a Magistrate and in light of recent changes in North Carolina law. I can no longer fulfill my oath of office in good faith.

I will contact Mr Pegram’s office to insure all necessary paper work is completed and all items belonging to the State and/or county are completed and/or returned. I have enjoyed working with all the fine people at the Rockingham County Courthouse. I wish you all the best as you continue in your quest to administer justice in a fair and impartial manner. I am reminded of the last words of David who said, “He that rules over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God”. Where there is no “fear of God” there can be no justice!

Sincerely,

John G. Kallam, Jr.

http://therightscoop.com/christian-n...-sex-marriage/
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Actually instead of applauding him for quitting, I would applaud him for staying and fighting this thing.

We need Christians willing to go to the mat and fight this evil thing, rather than throwing in the towel and surrendering.

He should have stayed and fought for his position and his beliefs.
If we simply quit our jobs then what jobs would be left for any Christians to do?

yes we might get fired but they will have to force us out and we can always appeal and fight this thing and we might actually win.

next time let us fight it out.
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AWESOME letter of resignation!! Kudos to him!

Christian NC magistrate resigns over same-sex marriage

It is with deep regret that I must inform you of my intent to resign from my current position as Magistrate effective 31 October 2014. It is my intent to use my remaining administrative days for the remainder of this month. When I took my oath of office, I understood I would be required to perform weddings and have done so throughout my tenure. I did not however take that oath with any understanding that I would be required to marry same sex couples. It is my personal belief and a position of my Christian faith that doing so would desecrate a holy Institution established by God Himself. Since performing marriages is an integral part of being a Magistrate and in light of recent changes in North Carolina law. I can no longer fulfill my oath of office in good faith.

I will contact Mr Pegram’s office to insure all necessary paper work is completed and all items belonging to the State and/or county are completed and/or returned. I have enjoyed working with all the fine people at the Rockingham County Courthouse. I wish you all the best as you continue in your quest to administer justice in a fair and impartial manner. I am reminded of the last words of David who said, “He that rules over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God”. Where there is no “fear of God” there can be no justice!

Sincerely,

John G. Kallam, Jr.

http://therightscoop.com/christian-n...-sex-marriage/
I also applaud Mr. Kallam!!

What a loss at the Rockingham County Courthouse though.
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Old 10-20-2014, 08:37 AM
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Actually instead of applauding him for quitting, I would applaud him for staying and fighting this thing.

We need Christians willing to go to the mat and fight this evil thing, rather than throwing in the towel and surrendering.

He should have stayed and fought for his position and his beliefs.
If we simply quit our jobs then what jobs would be left for any Christians to do?

yes we might get fired but they will have to force us out and we can always appeal and fight this thing and we might actually win.

next time let us fight it out.
What could he do? How can he fight when his 1st Amendment rights have been trumped by non-discriminatory laws?

He made a strong parting comment which will always be remembered - "I am reminded of the last words of David who said, “He that rules over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God”. Where there is no “fear of God” there can be no justice!"

The LBGT will file a lawsuit saying - "It is not about religious beliefs. It is about a civil servant doing their job."

The ACLU responds -

“As Governor McCrory and other officials have made clear, the highest responsibility of state actors is to uphold the United States Constitution,” Chris Brooks, the organization’s legal director for North Carolina, said in a statement. “Federal courts have agreed that the 14th Amendment’s guarantee of equal protection under the law for all citizens includes the right of gay and lesbian citizens to marry the person they love. The law is clear, and all state officials are bound to respect it.”

Justice Scalia made this comment in 2011:

UC Hastings law professor Calvin Massey asked, “In 1868, when the 39th Congress was debating and ultimately proposing the 14th Amendment, I don’t think anybody would have thought that equal protection applied to sex discrimination, or certainly not to sexual orientation. So does that mean that we’ve gone off in error by applying the 14th Amendment to both?”

“Yes, yes. Sorry, to tell you that. … But, you know, if indeed the current society has come to different views, that’s fine. You do not need the Constitution to reflect the wishes of the current society,” Scalia said.

“Certainly the Constitution does not require discrimination on the basis of sex. The only issue is whether it prohibits it. It doesn’t,” he said. “Nobody ever thought that that’s what it meant. Nobody ever voted for that.

“If the current society wants to outlaw discrimination by sex, hey we have things called legislatures, and they enact things called laws. You don’t need a constitution to keep things up-to-date. All you need is a legislature and a ballot box. You don’t like the death penalty anymore, that’s fine. You want a right to abortion? There’s nothing in the Constitution about that. But that doesn’t mean you cannot prohibit it. Persuade your fellow citizens it’s a good idea and pass a law. That’s what democracy is all about. It’s not about nine superannuated judges who have been there too long, imposing these demands on society,” he said.

http://www.callawyer.com/clstory.cfm...=913358&evid=1
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