Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love..

[ILG]

Okay, just finished the book. My take away from the book, although it wasn't particularly eye opening:

1. Hooking up began in the porn industry.
2. Children from stable Christian families are less likely to hookup.
3. The author appears to be focusing, mainly, on high achievers, which means, our brightest are without morals who want to lead our country.
4. Hooking up is mainly revenge on the male - something that Beyonce is pushing today.
5. My brother attended Duke University for his Masters in Mechanical Engineering - I have questions for him. lol

Agree with your points.

My sister has a doctorate in Educational Psychology. However, we are unable to discuss these types of issues.

I wouldn't expect her to do anything other than support a liberal agenda.

Agreed, but it's pretty great that a liberal is opposed to what is happening and sees a need for change!!

My observation - The feminist "values" are still in question, but the quote is a good try on her part. It sounds reasonable, but it doesn't play out that way in real life. You can't make yourself equal to a man no matter how hard you try. We are wired differently. And her book shows that women come away hurting more from that experience than a man.

I think it shows an interesting backfiring of the feminist agenda.

She, of course, had to appeal to her base, the liberal feminists, so that she wouldn't lose her place on the shelf in the world of journalism.

Sure. And she believes it besides.

So, the book is basically instructing teens in secular society - hookup, but bring your numbers down from 18 or 20.

Yeah, that's probably true, but from a conservative standpoint, I found it a fascinating read of what the feminist agenda and the porn industry have done to a generation of youth.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

ILG can post the things that she agreed with or liked about the book. I am thinking we may have come away with a different impression. Just a hunch. LOL!

Basically what I gained from reading the book is what is causing this problem in the epidemic sense. Interestingly, she names feminism and the porn industry. I got a lot out of reading the book simply because she is singing our song from a feminist perspective. When a feminist says basically "There is a problem and, well, feminism is a big part of that" that's pretty good! I think she can be a help to young women who are way out there having sex and hooking up like wild. They need a moderate feminist voice, because they are not likely to listen to yours or mine. However, I think this is a book for parents to read to understand the whole of the problem. I gained from reading it and will be keeping a copy of it.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

So, the book didn't offer hope or advice to the girls, just observations?

It did offer advice to very liberal girls who are hooking up already. For me, it was more about the observations that I found interesting.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

That is why I say, she offers advice to the secular world.

Yes, I think I was pretty clear on that from the beginning.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

You might be interested in reading this book, written dealing with the same basic subject, but from a Christian perspective: Unmasked by Jim Anderson. http://www.amazon.com/Unmasked-Expos...y+jim+anderson

We didn't have this at my local bookstore, so I ordered it from Amazon. My daughter has been trying to locate Little Women with Winona Ryder which seems to be hard to find, and since her birthday is coming up, I added it to my order. I'll let you know what I think after I read it.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by ILG

Agreed, but it's pretty great that a liberal is opposed to what is happening and sees a need for change!!

Except that I wasn't very convinced she was being honest when the last sentence, by her husband, stated, "Unhooked is not really about having less sex. It's about having more love - as annoying, foolish, and impractical as love can be."

I don't really see how that solves anything. Although, from a secular point of view, I suppose not acting like a bunch of rabbits helps society a little.

Some of the girls in the book did "care or love" the person they were being intimate with and the sex partner didn't love them back. So, really, outside of a marriage commitment, her advice is still going to bring a world of hurt.

I think it shows an interesting backfiring of the feminist agenda.

As long as their agenda, for the Left, is focused on abortion, it shows they are not trying to change anything, internally. All of the Liberal media champions this issue with every ounce of breath they can breathe.

Yeah, that's probably true, but from a conservative standpoint, I found it a fascinating read of what the feminist agenda and the porn industry have done to a generation of youth.

It's sad, that's for sure. Remember recently, Belle Knox, who attends Duke University, very proud of her porn career? I remember when UT students were expelled for dancing in strip clubs. Not anymore.

Originally Posted by ILG

Basically what I gained from reading the book is what is causing this problem in the epidemic sense. Interestingly, she names feminism and the porn industry. I got a lot out of reading the book simply because she is singing our song from a feminist perspective. When a feminist says basically "There is a problem and, well, feminism is a big part of that" that's pretty good! I think she can be a help to young women who are way out there having sex and hooking up like wild. They need a moderate feminist voice, because they are not likely to listen to yours or mine. However, I think this is a book for parents to read to understand the whole of the problem. I gained from reading it and will be keeping a copy of it.

She was basically saying that these kids have misunderstood the purpose of the feminist movement and agenda, but I don't buy it. I don't think you can be moderate while saying, "It's not about having less sex...." JMO.

It is still the age old fight against a conservative view and a liberal - abstinence and prevention. Whichever camp you are in, that is going to be your view and the subject you will focus on when writing a book.

Originally Posted by ILG

Yes, I think I was pretty clear on that from the beginning.

Right, I did state that you said that in your first post - "The interesting thing, as you mentioned with this author, is that they are talking about these effects in a secular way, not necessarily mentioning a religious belief, but just observation."

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

We didn't have this at my local bookstore, so I ordered it from Amazon. My daughter has been trying to locate Little Women with Winona Ryder which seems to be hard to find, and since her birthday is coming up, I added it to my order. I'll let you know what I think after I read it.

Awesome. I'll look forward to your opinion

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by ILG

It did offer advice to very liberal girls who are hooking up already. For me, it was more about the observations that I found interesting.

I do agree that at least it appears from your observations, and PO's is that this particular book was admitting flaws, and cracks in the feminist armor, which is a huge start. We can hope that the author will continue to move away from the feminist agenda to a more conservative viewpoint and understanding.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Except that I wasn't very convinced she was being honest when the last sentence, by her husband, stated, "Unhooked is not really about having less sex. It's about having more love - as annoying, foolish, and impractical as love can be."

I don't really see how that solves anything. Although, from a secular point of view, I suppose not acting like a bunch of rabbits helps society a little.

Some of the girls in the book did "care or love" the person they were being intimate with and the sex partner didn't love them back. So, really, outside of a marriage commitment, her advice is still going to bring a world of hurt.


As long as their agenda, for the Left, is focused on abortion, it shows they are not trying to change anything, internally. All of the Liberal media champions this issue with every ounce of breath they can breathe.


It's sad, that's for sure. Remember recently, Belle Knox, who attends Duke University, very proud of her porn career? I remember when UT students were expelled for dancing in strip clubs. Not anymore.


She was basically saying that these kids have misunderstood the purpose of the feminist movement and agenda, but I don't buy it. I don't think you can be moderate while saying, "It's not about having less sex...." JMO.

It is still the age old fight against a conservative view and a liberal - abstinence and prevention. Whichever camp you are in, that is going to be your view and the subject you will focus on when writing a book.


Right, I did state that you said that in your first post - "The interesting thing, as you mentioned with this author, is that they are talking about these effects in a secular way, not necessarily mentioning a religious belief, but just observation."

Well, we're on the same side here, PO. The main difference is that I enjoyed the book and you didn't! LOL!

I just got done reading another book that I loved and you would probably hate called The Faith Club!

[ILG]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

I do agree that at least it appears from your observations, and PO's is that this particular book was admitting flaws, and cracks in the feminist armor, which is a huge start. We can hope that the author will continue to move away from the feminist agenda to a more conservative viewpoint and understanding.

Since my sister is a very liberal feminist, and would maybe think the author was being too conservative, it did me good to try and understand a different point of view than my own while still affirming what I believe, which is that "hooking up" is not a healthy thing to do.