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11-02-2014, 11:28 AM
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Re: Im almost out of time
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
Unless you're giving more than 23% then you are not giving more than the "OT saints".
Then again if you think everyone in the OT gave 10% that's something to revisit also. Those who made their living off agriculture "tithed" (never 'paid tithes') while those who had other professions did not (such as carpenters and fisherman).
Why would you compare what you do to the old testament saints? A misunderstanding of Matthew 5:20? |
So, are you saying that all OT saints gave 23%, I need proof. This ought to be good. BTW why are you judging me?
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11-02-2014, 11:30 AM
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Re: Im almost out of time
Hmm...I think that is because we tend to adhere to such rigid, mutually exclusive definitions, as humans. Acts 2:38, sans the addendum, of course, can be restated to agree with the other Scriptural methods of salvation, imo.
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11-02-2014, 11:31 AM
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Re: Im almost out of time
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Originally Posted by houston
so much written about salvation in the epistles. Nothing resembling acts 238...
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Reply above.
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11-02-2014, 12:13 PM
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Re: Im almost out of time
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So, are you saying that all OT saints gave 23%, I need proof. This ought to be good. BTW why are you judging me?
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Because that's his job. 
J/K
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11-02-2014, 12:39 PM
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Re: Im almost out of time
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So, are you saying that all OT saints gave 23%, I need proof. This ought to be good. BTW why are you judging me?
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I think he is referring to those who tithed under the Mosaic Law. All were not required to tithe.
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11-02-2014, 06:35 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Re: Im almost out of time
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Originally Posted by Rudy
I think he is referring to those who tithed under the Mosaic Law. All were not required to tithe.
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Rudy, thank you for clearing that up. As a minister I do not teach tithing and neither do I see it as a salvational issue. I practice giving AT LEAST 10% because of a personal principle.
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11-02-2014, 06:42 PM
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Re: Im almost out of time
Indiana here too.
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11-02-2014, 06:49 PM
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Re: Im almost out of time
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Originally Posted by houston
found nowhere in the epistles
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The epistles only explain what happened in Acts. You seem to imply what is in the epistles somehow contradicts the Acts 2:38 message. Can you cite anything in the epistles that contradicts the Acts 2:38 new birth message and actually teaches the one step formula.
Last edited by Originalist; 11-02-2014 at 07:01 PM.
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11-02-2014, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Originalist
The epistles only explain what happened in Acts. You seem to imply what is in the epistles somehow contradicts the Acts 2:38 message. Can you cite anything in the epistles that contradicts the Acts 2:38 new birth message and actually teaches the one step formula. |
There's no contradiction. The problem arises when the initial evidence doctrine is forced into the text. Then everything seems contradictory because tongues was never the normative universal experience of all believers. That's the rub.
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11-02-2014, 09:12 PM
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Re: Im almost out of time
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
Mark 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
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