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Old 11-03-2014, 07:57 PM
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You'd really say anything Sean to never admit you are wrong anywhere on any given subject you ever commented about. I deny your accusation I have no bible. I have the WORD OF GOD! It is HERE today. You are just caught up in a KJV onlyist excuse for an answer for easter. Go ahead and celebrate passover with Ashtarte! Have at it, you pagan you. lol
He doesn't even know what the TR is. He really has no idea why he believes the KJV only.
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This was Herods" holy day...Acts 12:4King James Version (KJV)

4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.
Wow...ignorance is bliss
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Then you of all people should reject the idea that PASCHA is correctly translated EASTER. I struggled with that one point, too, Sean. I have the JACK CHICK comic you get the idea of having no bible from, too! Admit it, that's where you got the idea of no bible today! I believe the KJV is the translation to use. I have all the books and still agree with them all about it. But their excuse for EASTER is so inane and inept I cannot begin to describe it. They just do not care what a greek word really means, but try to insist KJV is flawless more than they try to know what the textus receptus actually said. the textus receptus is right in saying PASCHA. But the KJV is wrong in saying EASTER. Wrong as the day is long. NOTHING ABOUT THE WORD PASCHA implies easter in any sense of the term. And I think it's blasphemous to say it does, as you admitted it is pagan.
He has to be pulling our legs.
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Old 11-03-2014, 08:07 PM
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This was Herods" holy day...Acts 12:4King James Version (KJV)

4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.
Pascha is also used here in the KJV

1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

Mat 26:18 And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples.

Heb 11:28 Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.

The fact is the verse before it refers to the 7 days unleavened bread festival that went with the Passover

Every other place the KJV translates Pascha as Passover

πάσχα
páscha; neut. noun transliterated from the Hebr. pesach (H6453), to pass over, spare. The Passover, an exemption, immunity (Sept.: Exo_12:11, Exo_12:21). The great sacrifice and festival of the Jews which was instituted in commemoration of God's sparing the Jews when He destroyed the firstborn of the Egyptians. It was celebrated on the fourteenth day of the month Nisan. For the institution and particular laws of this festival see Ex. 12; Lev_23:5; Num_9:2-6. The later Jews made some additions. In particular they drank four cups of wine at various intervals during the paschal supper. The third of these cups, called the cup of benediction, is referred to in 1Co_10:16 (cf. Mat_26:27). In the NT, tó páscha, the Passover, may refer to the festival or to the paschal lamb.
(I) The paschal lamb, a year-old lamb or kid, slain as a sacrifice (Sept.: Exo_12:27). According to Josephus, the number of lambs sacrificed at Jerusalem in his time was 256,500. They were slain between the ninth and eleventh hour, which is from 3:00 to 5:00 p.m. Metaphorically used of Christ (1Co_5:7).
(II) Páscha also referred to the paschal supper as the commencement of the seven day festival of unleavened bread called tá ázuma (G106). See Exo_12:15 ff.; Lev_23:5 ff.
(A) It was used of the paschal supper alone (Mat_26:18 meaning to keep or celebrate the paschal supper). Heb_11:28 means that Moses instituted and kept the Passover (Sept.: Exo_12:48; Num_9:4 ff.).
(B) In a wider sense it also included the seven days of unleavened bread, the paschal festival (Mat_26:2; Mar_14:1; Luk_2:41; Luk_22:1; Joh_2:13, Joh_2:23; Joh_6:4; Joh_11:55; Joh_12:1; Joh_13:1; Joh_18:39; Joh_19:14; Act_12:4). The whole Passover is sometimes called the Feast of Unleavened Bread. See ázumos (G106), unleavened; arníon (G721), lamb; amnós (G286), sacrificial lamb; arḗn (G704), lamb.
(C) The expression "to eat the passover" means to keep the festival (Mat_26:17; Mar_14:12, Mar_14:14; Luk_22:11, Luk_22:15; Joh_18:28; Sept.: Exo_12:43 [cf. 2Ch_30:18]); "to make ready the passover" (a.t.) means to prepare for eating (Mat_26:19; Mar_14:16; Luk_22:8, Luk_22:13); to kill the passover (Mar_14:12; Luk_22:7; Sept.: Exo_12:21; Deu_16:2, Deu_16:5-6).
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Old 11-03-2014, 08:10 PM
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If you take that position, then you have NO true bible. Maybe we can get some modern day scholars to re-translate the T.R. to get us a true Bible...LOL





Mike Blume is implying that Christianity is completely tainted with false bible translations.
Modern King James Version
Act 12:4 And capturing him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four sets of four soldiers to keep him; intending to bring him out to the people after the Passover.
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Modern greek dictionary(westcott/hort) or the dictionary the KJV translators used?
You are confusing Dictionary with Greek Text.

They are not the same things
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The bible(which you dont agree with) says that.....

Acts 12:4King James Version (KJV)

4 And when he(Herod) had apprehended him, he(Herod) put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter(Herods day) to bring him forth to the people.


It does not say "Herod's day"
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Mat 26:17 Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?

Luk 22:1 Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.


Luk 22:7 Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed.
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Herod has a holiday? BWAHAHAHA!
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