Why I am Now Convinced of a Pre-Trib Rapture - Page 29

Evang.Benincasa · #**281** 01-24-2015, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Abiding Now

Naw, Never said I was sent here and I'm not smart enough to straighten anyone out. I'm just an simple observer.

Abiding Now · #**282** 01-24-2015, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sorry, I'm not following you???

Evang.Benincasa · #**283** 01-24-2015, 08:08 PM

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Sorry, I'm not following you???

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How can so many folks have so many scriptures on one subject and be soooooo wrong? J/W

I just thought since you believed all the other posters to be wrong, you would be the one to bring us the fresh bread of the word, straighten us out.

So, when you then said you were taking the position of a silent observer it just seems as backing out when you could help so many.

Abiding Now · #**284** 01-24-2015, 08:27 PM

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I just thought since you believed all the other posters to be wrong, you would be the one to bring us the fresh bread of the word, straighten us out.

So, when you then said you were taking the position of a silent observer it just seems as backing out when you could help so many.

Ah, but I never said which side was wrong. Just making an observation that Holy Ghost filled believers could believe things that was diametrically opposed to other Holy Ghost filled believers.

mfblume · #**285** 01-24-2015, 08:31 PM

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Ah, but I never said which side was wrong. Just making an observation that Holy Ghost filled believers could believe things that was diametrically opposed to other Holy Ghost filled believers.

True but not confusing. God can only reveal to us what we seek him to reveal. If we think we know it all and cannot be taught anything about an issue, then why ask God? And in reality if we are wrong, but not seeking God to correct us if we are, then God can't help us. So we should always always be seeking God to correct us if we're wrong, even if we presently cannot see where we might be wrong.

Abiding Now · #**286** 01-24-2015, 08:37 PM

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True but not confusing. God can only reveal to us what we seek him to reveal. If we think we know it all and cannot be taught anything about an issue, then why ask God? And in reality if we are wrong, but not seeking God to correct us if we are, then God can't help us. So we should always always be seeking God to correct us if we're wrong, even if we presently cannot see where we might be wrong.

Thanks.

mfblume · #**287** 01-24-2015, 08:45 PM

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Thanks.

mfblume · #**288** 01-25-2015, 01:30 PM

Had an interesting chat in the esch. section. A pretrib brother believes the tree of life is an actual tree with actual leaves for healing and fruit to physically eat. He by the time Rev 21's events take place, the millennium will be over and the white throne judgment is past and everyone ever to be saved is in the city and everyone else is on the lake of fire. Annihilationist, or not, the point is the same. the tree o life has leaves for healing AFTER the millennium is over.

I asked why there would be leaves for healing after his future millennium when everyone is in heaven when there would be no sickness that could affect anyone in heaven. (Despite the fact that the city IS NOT HEAVEN, since it comes DOWN OUT OF heaven, the popular idea today is that the city IS HEAVEN.) Anyway, he said we would still get sick in heaven if it were not for the tree's leaves that heal.

Anyone else believe that? Heaven has sickness and we would get sick if there were no leaves on a real tree of life for healing?

This also implies we would get old and die were it for the fruit of life in the Tree.

How common is that belief? Jesus' salvation and resurrection of the church is not enough to make us live forever, we still need fruit and leaves for anti-aging and healing.

Furthermore, why would the city NEED WALLS? Who do the walls need to keep out?

Sean · #**289** 01-25-2015, 04:17 PM

I had an interesting discussion also. There is a guy that believes God LIED to us and John about the Tree of Life as seen in heaven by John.....LOL

Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

He says dont sweat it, the tree is not real,
when you get to heaven dont even bother looking for it, because it does not exist...lOL
(it even shows us the purpose of the tree)
Now we know what the Lord did with the ORIGINAL tree of life in the garden of Eden

Trusting a preterist is like grabbing a rattlesnake by the tail!

Originalist · #**290** 01-25-2015, 04:22 PM

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I had an interesting discussion also. There is a guy that believes God LIED to us and John about the Tree of Life as seen in heaven by John.....LOL

Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

He says dont sweat it, the tree is not real,
when you get to heaven dont even bother looking for it, because it does not exist...lOL

Trusting a preterist is like grabbing a rattlesnake by the tail!

How does its leaves heal nations that were not part of the new earth? Why would healing be needed in such a place?