ILG - Vaccine Hysteria

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

How am I supposed to take this person seriously? She does not sound objective nor professional

1. The voices shrieking to forcibly vaccinate people are the same voices shrieking to support a woman’s right to choose abortion under Roe v. Wade. If a woman’s body is sacrosanct, if she has the right to choose to deliver a child or not, if she has total authority over her body, how can she not have the right to accept or refuse a vaccination?
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/02/how-vacci...RX1prrEdyP0.99

"Shrieking"? She should be here arguing with Walks In Islam or some other...the only ones pushing for immunization are those that believe in Abortion? talk about poisoning the well.

Oh, please, Prax. You didn't read or see the LEFT shrieking about abortion being a woman's right during Romney's presidential run? How soon we forget. Yes, they are shrieking. MSNBC, et al were surely shrieking.

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

• Measles is one of the leading causes of death among young children even though a safe and cost-effective vaccine is available.
• In 2013, there were 145 700 measles deaths globally – about 400 deaths every day or 16 deaths every hour.
• Measles vaccination resulted in a 75% drop in measles deaths between 2000 and 2013 worldwide.
• In 2013, about 84% of the world's children received one dose of measles vaccine by their first birthday through routine health services – up from 73% in 2000.
• During 2000-2013, measles vaccination prevented an estimated 15.6 million deaths making measles vaccine one of the best buys in public health.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs286/en/

BTW IF...IF there were no deaths due to measles...maybe its because so many were vaccinated and never got it?

Everyone I went to school with were vaccinated and we still got the measles and Chicken Pox. No one died.

One of my classmates got polio from his polio vaccine. He isn't the only person that got polio from vaccines either.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Oh, please, Prax. You didn't read or see the LEFT shrieking about abortion being a woman's right during Romney's presidential run? How soon we forget. Yes, they are shrieking. MSNBC, et al were surely shrieking.

.the good doctor said " voices shrieking to forcibly vaccinate people"...I didn't deny anyone "shrieks"

And whether they shrieked or not, that sounds more like an attempt to muddy the waters than present an objective case. Its pejorative. It feeds into the mentality of people who frequent WND and other such publications

Study Logical fallacies

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Everyone I went to school with were vaccinated and we still got the measles and Chicken Pox. No one died.

One of my classmates got polio from his polio vaccine. He isn't the only person that got polio from vaccines either.

Irregardless, the claim about no one dying seems bogus and unsupported

[Esaias]

Vaccinism is a religion stuffed with true believers.

I learned the truth years from asking direct pointed questions of our pediatrician. Her info was clear - vaccines render the immune system weakened and support the continuation of disease. When I pointed that out her only card left to play was "just trust me".

Sealed the deal for me.

Fact: the only cases of polio lately have been DUE to the vaccine. (Might be new ones now tho what with the illegal invasion and all)

Fact: vaccination prevents you from having true immunity to what you were vaccnated for. Vaccinated persons can carry those diseases and transmit them to others, with or without symptoms.

Fact: the vaccination industry has been proven to lie and distort medical facts to support the sale of vaccines.

Fact: true believers will not be persuaded by facts, only by men in white coats (priests of the sacred mysteries).

I've learned by experience most doctors have no clue what they are doing. Might as well go to Jiffy Lube in most cases.

But I DO respect a lot of nurses and technicians. They actually usually know what the score is. And I've had plenty of them tell me stay away from vaccines, doctors, and hospitals as much as possible.

Go figure.

[n david]

In the ER with one of the twins due to high fever after getting some shots today. She's on IV and under observation for a while. Heart rate is above normal.

Should've stuck with my first thought of no vaccines. I'm angry with myself.

No more vax, not after this.

[Esaias]

Praying for you and yours.

[n david]

Tired and upset. Being told my daughter is going to be admitted into the hospital. They've ordered a spinal tap and said they found white blood cells in her urine, indicative of a UTI. They say none of the vaccines could have caused this.

The link below, from the National Institute of Health makes me skeptical as it appears there may indeed be a link between the Dtap vaccine and UTI.

Source Link

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Originally Posted by n david

In the ER with one of the twins due to high fever after getting some shots today. She's on IV and under observation for a while. Heart rate is above normal.

Should've stuck with my first thought of no vaccines. I'm angry with myself.

No more vax, not after this.

I am sorry to see this and will be praying for your daughter as well as you and your family.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Vaccinism is a religion stuffed with true believers.

I learned the truth years from asking direct pointed questions of our pediatrician. Her info was clear - vaccines render the immune system weakened and support the continuation of disease. When I pointed that out her only card left to play was "just trust me".

Sealed the deal for me.

Fact: the only cases of polio lately have been DUE to the vaccine. (Might be new ones now tho what with the illegal invasion and all)

Fact: vaccination prevents you from having true immunity to what you were vaccnated for. Vaccinated persons can carry those diseases and transmit them to others, with or without symptoms.

Fact: the vaccination industry has been proven to lie and distort medical facts to support the sale of vaccines.

Fact: true believers will not be persuaded by facts, only by men in white coats (priests of the sacred mysteries).

I've learned by experience most doctors have no clue what they are doing. Might as well go to Jiffy Lube in most cases.

But I DO respect a lot of nurses and technicians. They actually usually know what the score is. And I've had plenty of them tell me stay away from vaccines, doctors, and hospitals as much as possible.

Go figure.

I simply believe in parental choice. If someone feels compelled to be vaccinated, go for it. Just don't force others who disagree.