My visit to a Messianic service yesterday

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Sorry to see you write such a thing. While MOST "Christian" type religons do present a false Christ even as we speak I have heard over the years there are "Oneness" Apostolic Churches in Jerusalem.

How close "Oneness Pentecostal" is to the faith once delivered would be yet another discussion.

Scripture: so easy to apply to others, so hard to apply to ourselves.

[Esaias]

Some messianic synagogues are trinitarian. Many others are either Oneness or Arian.

[KeptByTheWord]

Lafon - while we know that the Gentiles have been given an opportunity for salvation, it does not mean that no Jews cannot hear the truth about the Messiah and believe. Maybe what you are referring to is the Jews as a whole nation, but certainly, I know there are Jews who believe in the Messiah. Just because you may not know of any fully embracing the gospel doesn't mean that there are none.

[shazeep]

there are lots of them. that may have described some period of time; but a Christian cannot even volunteer at a kibbutz anymore, the Jewish youth there being so open to the concept. They are sceered to death of proselytizing, or worse yet, non-proselytizing Christians.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by shazeep

Scripture: so easy to apply to others, so hard to apply to ourselves.

We all hope that we are walking in truth and have truth. But, I am convinced that while we are doing the best we can, it may not be all the truth there is. However, the scripture that says - by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God - is our hope.

Praise God that if we continue in our faith towards Him, His grace is able to save us and continue to lead us towards Jesus, who is the way, the TRUTH and the life.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Some messianic synagogues are trinitarian. Many others are either Oneness or Arian.

I think, from what was said at the meeting, that they may believe more like the JWs - in the Father and Son, with the same spirit shared between them. What belief is that called?

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by shazeep

there are lots of them. that may have described some period of time; but a Christian cannot even volunteer at a kibbutz anymore, the Jewish youth there being so open to the concept. They are sceered to death of proselytizing, or worse yet, non-proselytizing Christians.

Are you saying that Jews won't let Christians come into their midst because of the concern of people being led towards Christianity?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

We all hope that we are walking in truth and have truth. But, I am convinced that while we are doing the best we can, it may not be all the truth there is.

i am fairly convinced that we are going to be left speechless at the deception we live under; me included. Because we naturally run to evil, there is not a single area of our existence that has not been corrupted, imo, unless one has left the world; a very tough thing to do. I am sure God understands this, however--and thank God for Grace!

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Are you saying that Jews won't let Christians come into their midst because of the concern of people being led towards Christianity?

definitely. Understand that Kibbutzim are typically staffed by young Jews; and that a Christian is tolerated and even welcomed, as long as they do not proselytize, in Jewish society. Chaperoned, as it were. The same goes for Muslim society.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i am fairly convinced that we are going to be left speechless at the deception we live under; me included. Because we naturally run to evil, there is not a single area of our existence that has not been corrupted, imo, unless one has left the world; a very tough thing to do. I am sure God understands this, however--and thank God for Grace!

Yes, I believe that too. I pray every day that the mercy and grace of the Lord will be sufficient to cover me in His eyes, in spite of my faults, failures and understanding of Him that may not be perfect.