We Gentiles are running out of time - Page 11

Sean · #**101** 02-16-2015, 07:11 AM

Okay Satan, get behind me already!

God showed me there will be no resurrection for me without baptism.

He never said when it would happen, I just took care of it ASAP(just in case).

Get behind me SATAN!

I know it was from God!

Esaias · #**102** 02-16-2015, 07:39 AM

Can satan cast out satan? Is his kingdom divided?

Sean I believe God was showing you that unless you act on the gospel you will miss out on all God has planned for his saints.

Glory be to God.

Sean · #**103** 02-16-2015, 07:44 AM

Esaias, there is no debate on this experience I had.

It lasted for hours after I woke up with the Holy Ghost enveloping me.

It was a COMPLETE God thing.

Satan is attacking my MIRACLE through Lafon, saying it was Satan giving me the dream.

Therefore I rebuke the lying devil that said that!

Sean · #**104** 02-16-2015, 07:46 AM

I will NEVER do that to a mans' encounter with God.((try to convince him it is Satanic)

When folks tell me they had a divine visitation of some kind, I just leave it alone...

shazeep · #**105** 02-16-2015, 09:36 AM

"Judge not, lest you be judged."

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Originally Posted by Esaias

Did we run out of time, yet?

i think the phrase "last days," which Christ indicated they were in even in His time, has been misinterpreted. Anyone who is mortal is in their "last days."

mfblume · #**106** 02-16-2015, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

"Judge not, lest you be judged."
i think the phrase "last days," which Christ indicated they were in even in His time, has been misinterpreted. Anyone who is mortal is in their "last days."

Something to consider.... it was the last days of an age and era. The WORLD in Matt 24 is literally EON or AGE. T he biggest change of eras was the Old Covenant to the New. An age was ending with the temple and so on, to give way for the church as the true temple of God. A holy habitation built up by God not man.

mfblume · #**107** 02-16-2015, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lafon

Can God lie? Absolutely not!

Would God ever lie or do that which constitutes a lie in order to bring one to an understanding of the truth about a particular matter? Absolutely not!

Amen!!!

Bowas · #**108** 02-16-2015, 11:39 AM

Sean, You are not alone with the statement you made here.

"Mike, the disciples thought it WAS the end of the world, but in reality, it wasnt."

I ask you to strongly consider the implications you make when you (or anyone) thinks this.
Here is the dilemma:

The only place we have any recordings of what the apostles thought and taught is what we call the Bible. I for one, believe the Bible is the infallible word of God.
If any of the Spirit inspired writers wrote ANYTHING in the Bible that you , me or anyone thinks is in error, we are by default claiming the apostles and yes, the Bible is wrong and that we are right!

Jesus very clearly in John 17:20 gave the apostles the sole authority on what we are allowed to believe concerning Him.

John 17:20 Neither pray I for these (disciples) alone, but for them (all believers) also which shall believe on me through their (disciples) word (Bible);

For anyone one to claim they are right and the bible is wrong crosses a very uncrossable line and elevates ones views above the Bibles...apostles, clear words.

What one should consider, instead of making a mokery of the written word by claiming it is in error, is to try to understand what it, the apsotles was in fact saying.
If they, through the written word of the Bible claimed Jesus would come back in that time, they were right, and if you or anyone disagrees with them, you are wrong. The word of God be true and every man a liar.

Yes, I do feel strongly about this point and is what forced me to look closer to what they were in fact saying when they claimed it was the last days and concerning His coming.
Not all comings they referred to was what we call the second coming but in fact was referring to His coming in judgment against Jerusalem, and that coming is what so many confuse with His second coming and will just claim the apostles were wrong.

It was the last days then, of the Jewish economy and Jesus did come (not physically or in a resurrection) but in judgment and the apostles and the Bible is right!!

mfblume · #**109** 02-16-2015, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowas

Sean, You are not alone with the statement you made here.

"Mike, the disciples thought it WAS the end of the world,...."

Whatever the APOSTLES (not just disciples) thought is the truth. I believe what they believed! That's why I'm apostolic!

People can say the apostles were wrong til the cows com home, but I AGREE WITH THE APOSTLES! And that statement saying they were wrong only convinced me more of the error of futurism. It was the end of the world. People just don't know what they meant by WORLD. Nathaniel Urshan said the same thing. He said the apostles were wrong because they thought they were in the last days, but he said we KNOW WE are in the last days.

If people knew what the apostles meant by WORLD they would clearly agree with kingdom eschatology. Kingdom eschatology preaches exactly what the apostles meant by the END OF THE WORLD. When a person mixes a DIFFERENT UNINTENDED interpretation to WORLD than what the apostles meant, then they get all mixed up and say incorrect things about their words , like they THOUGHT it was the end of the world. What the apostles meant by end of the world was correct and IT DID END IN THEIR DAY. When people think SOMETHING else they did not mean, they think the apostles were wrong. THAT is the entire problem with futurism in a nutshell

Lafon · #**110** 02-16-2015, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

You tell me...
Gen 41:25 And Joseph said unto Pharaoh, The dream of Pharaoh is one: God hath shewed Pharaoh what he is about to do.

Sean, I know that others have requested that you cease using red letters in your responses, and I will do so here as well. Your red letters make it extremely difficult for me to read. Thank you!

Secondly, you've evaded answering the question. I did NOT request that you respond by tendering question to me, but to provide a scriptural answer to the one I tendered to you.

Admittedly its true that Joseph informed Pharaoh that the dream was one, saying, "The dream of Pharaoh is one: God hath shewed Pharaoh what he is about to do." (Genesis 41:25). However, that was NOT my question!

After referencing Joseph's words of Genesis 41:32, wherein he informed Pharaoh of the manner by which he determined that his dreams were from God, saying, "And for that the dream was doubled unto Pharaoh twice; it is because the thing is established by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass," I asked the very simple question of whether you believed this is the proper manner by which you, I, and others MUST also use this same method of determining the source of dreams we receive (or words to that effect). What I was trying to discover was the method that you, personally, employ in discerning whether a particular dream came from God or Satan. Don't you think it important to know that?

As for me, I receive many dreams, and if any dream is NOT "doubled," that is, the SAME message is conveyed, then I give a single dream no credibility at all. This is the sole reason why I questioned the source of the dream you had. You did NOT say that it was "doubled," only stating it as a singular dream. And that is why I questioned its source. I also questioned its merits because you stated that it contained a message concerning a "rapture," which I can prove (if you should ever be willing to discuss the matter) is a "doctrine of devils." God might have used the visions of your dream to lead you to him, but based exclusively upon your description, and blaspheme my good name if that is your desire because of all that I've stated, but I still maintain that your dream was of Satanic origin. I've even had a few of those myself.