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07-22-2015, 02:44 PM
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Re: Is supprt for israel really required (V)
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Well folks if someone knocked on your door holding the Torah and said, "this book says your property is mine." What would you do?
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How about if someone knocked on your door wearing moccasins said where you were living was his property?
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07-22-2015, 03:40 PM
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Re: Is supprt for israel really required (V)
Romans 11:28
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.[/B]
We need not support them in everything they do neither should we forget they are beloved for the Fathers sakes.
They have been gathered back to Israel for a purpose.
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07-22-2015, 03:57 PM
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Re: Is supprt for israel really required (V)
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How about if someone knocked on your door wearing moccasins said where you were living was his property?
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Trade a pair of Nike's for the property.
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07-22-2015, 03:57 PM
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Re: Is supprt for israel really required (V)
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Romans 11:28
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.[/B]
We need not support them in everything they do neither should we forget they are beloved for the Fathers sakes.
They have been gathered back to Israel for a purpose.
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Did you watch the video?
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07-22-2015, 03:58 PM
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Re: Is supprt for israel really required (V)
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Romans 11:28
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.[/B]
We need not support them in everything they do neither should we forget they are beloved for the Fathers sakes.
They have been gathered back to Israel for a purpose.
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Umm... what makes you think those people over there are Israelites?
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07-22-2015, 09:10 PM
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Re: Is supprt for israel really required (V)
https://books.google.com/books?id=8_...page&q&f=false
Please read the first few pages of chapter one entitled One Book of the Whole Bible.
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07-22-2015, 09:13 PM
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Re: Is supprt for israel really required (V)
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Amen. Good post.
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Originalist here is a reading list you might want to look into....
http://www.christianzionism.org/booksn.asp
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07-22-2015, 09:19 PM
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Re: Is supprt for israel really required (V)
Stephen Sizer on Christian Zionism
http://www.christianzionism.org/bible.asp
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07-22-2015, 10:50 PM
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Re: Is supprt for israel really required (V)
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Amen, and all that is political, being done by a nation trying to do whatever they see fit to keep their power. Just like any other country would try to do if it felt threaten by an opposing force. But as far as they being the same group we find in the Bible for that to be the reason then no. It is not their manifest destiny to keep their property by any means necessary. So, therefore it is not our duty as Christians to blindly follow and support Israel. Pray for them to come to Jesus Christ, and convert.  |
I guess the same can be said for those who follow a flag because it's red, white, and blue!
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07-22-2015, 10:56 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Is supprt for israel really required (V)
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Originally Posted by Originalist
I admire Israel for simply being the more normal nation in the region. But are Christians and Gentile nations required to support Israel? I'm not asking if we should be against Israel, as I do not think we should.. I'm asking if we must support Israel. Can we be neutral?
This video exposes allot of error in Christians circles concerning support for Israel. I am not crazy about the producer, but there is still good food for thought...
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What does "Support" mean?
I support Israel. I don't support everything Israel does
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