Is supprt for israel really required (V)

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

I guess the same can be said for those who follow a flag because it's red, white, and blue!

What if my flag is blue white and red?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

I have been grafted to the natural olive tree: I am, therefore, an Israelite.

If you believe that there are no more Israelites today, it is likely that you are not one!

I have been grafted in, the domestic tree which had the covenantal branches is thousands of years old. Those of the remnant could literally fulfill the criteria of Ezra and Nehemiah by physically showing their lineage in a physically genealogy. Therefore you and I are part of that domestic olive tree. I said all that to say this, there were actual Biblical Judeans and Israelites who could prove their lineage like Jesus and Paul, but no one today can produce paper work to appease the strict qualifications of Ezra 2:59-62. Therefore Benjamin Netanyahu would be shown the door if they would require strict guidelines of producing a physical genealogical lineage as in Ezra 2:59-62.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

What if my flag is blue white and red?

How about if my flag is black with white skull n crossbones?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

By whomever holds the purse strings!

The money is then used for payoffs, like bribery and graft. Why do outgoing politicians get
paid such exorbitant speaking fees, and royalties for books no one really reads?

Could you explain how this applies to Modern day Israel? Since the United States has Israel as an ally she supplies Israel with monies for military. If Israel was attacked the United States would step in to help Israel, therefore Israel is sent money to build up her military to discourage anyone from attacking her. Yet, if she was attacked the U.S. would step in to defend. Now, are you saying that there is corruption involved in this, and if yes, could you prove that corruption? Does Israel have the right to defend herself and does she have the right to have support if she couldn't defend herself in an attack?

[Disciple4life]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Could you please explain why we shouldn't aid another country's growth as a partner and ally? Not saying I'm agreeing that we should support other countries with monies from taxpayers, just want to know your reasons not to do so. Please examine the chart carefully then give your answer.

"The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in
extending our commercial relations to have as little political
connection as possible... Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of
any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of
European ambition, rivalships, interest, humor, or caprice?... It is our
true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of
the foreign world." George Washington

1 dollar of US money is too much.. because it is our taxes funding someone else dreams and ambitions.

I don't think the government should be handing out money BUT if they do take care of needy people at home before you start handing cash out to kids in the neighborhood.

Oh and it always, I mean ALWAYS backfires on us in the end. TOO many examples to list.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Disciple4life

"The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in
extending our commercial relations to have as little political
connection as possible... Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of
any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of
European ambition, rivalships, interest, humor, or caprice?... It is our
true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of
the foreign world." George Washington

1 dollar of US money is too much.. because it is our taxes funding someone else dreams and ambitions.

I don't think the government should be handing out money BUT if they do take care of needy people at home before you start handing cash out to kids in the neighborhood.

Oh and it always, I mean ALWAYS backfires on us in the end. TOO many examples to list.

But if Israel is our ally then we should be able to help that ally, and anytime we get in trouble they will return the favor. So, it works both ways.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

But if Israel is our ally then we should be able to help that ally, and anytime we get in trouble they will return the favor. So, it works both ways.

That's the theory, anyway.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

That's the theory, anyway.

Yeah, that's the theory. Israel really never went with us into any of our armed conflicts (not that I know of maybe someone could present the needed information) yet, the United States has had to scold Israel for Israel's sale of sensitive security equipment and technology to various countries, especially the People's Republic of China.

Maybe modern Israel is more like the United State's Dennis the Menace?
Everyone feels some sort of obligation to protect the little lad, hear his apologies, and then within the next minute he gets in more trouble, yet when pressed he tearfully and apologetically reminds us it really isn't his fault.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Now, please keep in mind that the majority of the room which Senator Ted Cruz is addressing are Eastern Orthodox, Eastern Catholic, and Protestants from different countries in the Middle East. If you listen closely not only to the speaker, but to the audience, you will hear where the audience agrees with the senator and where they disagreed with the senator. Frankly he didn't expect the reaction he received when he made his comments. The senator from Texas, was only use to speaking to Christians who hold beliefs similar to his own, and never engaged Christians who live in the Middle East. Also the senator didn't really display what I loved in another video where he allowed open dialogue to those who heckled him. But this time just took his bat and ball then left the stage with a "if you don't stand with Israel, then I don't stand with you" sayonara.

So, if you believe the Israel issue isn't a religious situation but a solely a political situation, then the Texas senator doesn't stand with you either.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=110&v=x2ZVihACwQ0

[Evang.Benincasa]

"I support Israel, but what Senator Cruz did was outrageous and incendiary," Dent said. "He showed a true lack of sensitivity for the people he was speaking to, especially the religious leaders who were there. It was a political speech, inappropriate and, overall, an uncomfortable moment."

Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.)