House church or excuse?

[Esaias]

[Esaias]

[Esaias]

[Esaias]

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Cracker Barrel

The church in Maui started out in dad Malory's garage. Then after several years it was converted into a full-size church pretty nice. The house church exploded with growth and has expanded so much. Why wouldn't want to make an excuse when there are so many people to reach on the island. Let's build the biggest the best the greatest sanctuary that money can buy so that more people can be safe .

Hey Poi Boy!

How are you all going to support that edifice "biggest and best" MONEY can buy?

Care to put the Pineapple bong down and explain?

[shazeep]

money changes everything huh

[Cracker Barrel]

Originally Posted by Esaias

This last picture touches my heart. You know that they are preparing for the third temple as we speak.https://www.templeinstitute.org/events.htm but what touches me even more is the pictures that you show of all of those other churches. It is sad to see them because they don't have to pull for offerings like a lot of men do among us, we don't have to have food drives and so things in garage sales and peanut brittle and fundraisers. We are here with the only saving teaching, but the people in our churches are so stingy that they hold back from God. God doesn't need our money I agree, but God will not do what we can do for ourselves.

Those churches are going Big kahuna packed from wall-to-wall building whatever they want stretching as far and wide is they desire. While the real church struggles, while the real church has to fight spirits of the local city for permits to expand. And some people sit satisfied with the group of 10 or 20 in their home when the world is going to hell .

A good friend of mine said something that I will never forget, he said "the devil will give you excuses if you let him."

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Cracker Barrel

To stay at house church is for one or two excuses.

One you don't have a ministry that is anointed to attract people enough to build a church.

Excuse me but does your pastor hold this opinion as well? You might not want to head over to the mainland and start spouting that sort of stuff in a meeting. You might have someone light your grass skirt on fire.

Originally Posted by Cracker Barrel

Number two if you don't believe in giving to the church Or paying tithing then you can't afford to build a church.

Wow, I noticed that the poster Sean was honey hugging on you in the Mowi Wowi thread against fulfilled eschatology. I also notice Sean always ends up grabbing onto allies who are FAITHFUL TITHERS! Sean! The Lord is trying to tell you to go back to your old pastor and give him all those back tithes you owe him! So, an individual "pastor" cannot get out of his Home Missions work or house church because he doesn't get enough tithe money out of his people? Kahuna, I see you been missing your Dale Carnegie classes.

Originally Posted by Cracker Barrel

That is the reason you would stay in the house church. This is ridiculous, quit making excuses

Does your pastor believe like you?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

money changes everything huh

I guess it does on the Big Island.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Cracker Barrel

This last picture touches my heart. You know that they are preparing for the third temple as we speak.https://www.templeinstitute.org/events.htm

You believe that they are actually going to return to the law system and animal sacrifices? Ezra and Nehemiah would be laughing! The Apostle Paul would just shake his head

Originally Posted by Cracker Barrel

but what touches me even more is the pictures that you show of all of those other churches. It is sad to see them

because they don't have to pull for offerings

like a lot of men do among us, we don't have to have food drives and so things in garage sales and peanut brittle and fundraisers.

Peanut brittle?

That's sounds real Hawaiian.

Please explain "to pull for offerings?"

Originally Posted by Cracker Barrel

We are here with the only saving teaching,

but the people in our churches are so stingy that they hold back from God

. God doesn't need our money I agree, but God will not do what we can do for ourselves.

WHAT?!?

Does your pastor know you are on this forum bad mouthing his people?

Originally Posted by Cracker Barrel

Those churches are going Big kahuna packed from wall-to-wall building whatever they want stretching as far and wide is they desire. While the real church struggles, while the real church has to fight spirits of the local city for permits to expand. And some people sit satisfied with the group of 10 or 20 in their home when the world is going to hell .

Maybe they're struggling because you hold such a low opinion of them and then come to the forum post their FB page and call them stingy.

Originally Posted by Cracker Barrel

A good friend of mine said something that I will never forget, he said "the devil will give you excuses if you let him."

You have a good friend? I hope he isn't one of the people you call stingy.