House church or excuse? - Page 6

Evang.Benincasa · #51 10-08-2015, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cracker Barrel

OK I see your point, I guess it will be like this till the rapture Huh?

It will be like what?

Please clarify?

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I guess you CAN teach an old dog new tricks. Lol

Sadly that is pretty rare.

Cracker Barrel · #52 10-08-2015, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

It will be like what?

Please clarify

Sadly that is pretty rare.

I am not the man you think I am, I'm washed up, I'm trying to encourage you young people to do more than I have. My days of meetings on the beach are over. All o want is to see things like the book of acts Befor I die. But the only way is I can connect with youth. I may not see the rapture in my lifetime, it's just sad to have youth ability zeal, and HolyGhost power and hold it back from seeing the church on the earth like the church in heaven.

And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders:

and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

I told someone before this, God has big things in mind. I just hate to see the church look at things with such small thinking. Think big bruda, very big go deep get everything God has don't be satisfied for less. He will meet u at your level of how much you desire him. Sorry for rambling, it was a nice sunset tonight.

Cracker Barrel · #53 10-08-2015, 11:12 PM

I will go, I will just visit again or maybe not. I can just read and laugh as a ghost guest again. Lol I like to see and watch what people do all day anyways. Ha have revival and ask yourself ' am I doing all I can?'

Ke Akua pu a hui hou !

Esaias · #54 10-09-2015, 12:51 AM

Your days are over? You say we can have and be but you can't? That is, you can't actually get involved and work towards what you complain about others not having?

Good grief.

Cracker Barrel · #55 10-09-2015, 06:46 AM

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Your days are over? You say we can have and be but you can't? That is, you can't actually get involved and work towards what you complain about others not having?

Good grief.

I do son, and have more than u ever know, but talking to you is not working. Small thinking produces small box ideas.

shazeep · #56 10-09-2015, 07:12 AM

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I do son, and have more than u ever know, but talking to you is not working. Small thinking produces small box ideas.

well, when does talking ever accomplish anything but division, i wonder?

i think what you want to do is a great idea! But i also would not condemn those talking to you who mean well. It is human nature to discourage, rather than encourage, and it is meant well. We call it "constructive criticism." When you say "the biggest church money can buy," you surely mean "give all we have to build a meeting place, not caring about the money," but it is just heard differently.

i would encourage you to consider it without taking it to heart. Do what the Spirit leads you to do, I'm sure all here would agree. If you are older, you surely know the drawbacks to erecting and maintaining a large building; yet if you feel you are being led in that direction, by the Spirit, then amen!

shazeep · #57 10-09-2015, 07:15 AM

also, conditions may be different there--here house churches seem to be rising, and church buildings seem to be emptying out. So your best advice might be from friends close by, rather than relatives far away, so to speak.

Godsdrummer · #58 10-09-2015, 08:02 AM

Really? Thinking that a big building glorifies God more than small groups meeting together does.
God does not receive more glory with big buildings man does. Larger groups loose the evangelistic mindset that are found in smaller groups. Better to have hundreds of small groups that are reaching friends and neighbors, than one big building with thousands were one gets lost in the crowd.

Larger groups, grow based on programs and the reputation of one or two leaders (preachers/pastor) than the love of Christ. Where as house churches grow based on love one to another, and study of the bible.

Sorry if that sounds too simplified, but I have experienced them all, I am not speaking off the top of my head here. As a young pastor starting a new church my goal was to get enough people to afford a building that could seat more people. Now later in life I see the error of that thinking. Today I would much rather see hundreds even thousands of house churches that gathered quarterly for fellowship, than gather all the house churches under one roof with a small ministry team.

House churches or excuses? The question should be why are you not reaching your neighbor on a one to one bases leading them to Christ rather than trying to get them to attend your church? Why are we more concerned with the size of the church we attend and eloquence of the preacher and worship team, than personal relationship with God. Why is the conversion of a sinner based more on the church we attend rather than your own personal witness? Why is it that our evangelistic efforts for most must be conducted across town because our neighbors cannot see Christ in us and would reject our witness?
If it is possible to merge the two, house churches and the church building and assembly great. But if not I will take house church groups over the mega church setting any day of the week.

Esaias · #59 10-09-2015, 08:46 AM

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I do son, and have more than u ever know, but talking to you is not working. Small thinking produces small box ideas.

So you think small in regards to your situation while griping about others thinking small about their situation?

And You don't see the issue with that? You just think people need to build giant monolithic buildings of extravagant decor and if THEY will do that YOU will feel better?

Besides the whole "God does not dwell in temples made with hands" business, you seem to have the idea that others are failing because they can't or won't achieve what you can't or won't even try to work towards.

And no, posting your absurd criticisms on AFF does not count as "doing something."

shazeep · #60 10-09-2015, 08:53 AM

we are all guilty of using critique as a means to forward a pov, i think. Not saying this would happen, but i have witnessed the Spirit leading people into doing something so that it would fail, and lessons would be learned thereby. As strange as that sounds.

A good primer on critique, 4 points:
https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/0...les-criticism/