Your tithes were already paid.

[good samaritan]

I SAID:

The law commanded Israel to tithe to support the levitical priesthood who in return would tend to the tabernacle and their sacrificial system. Levites had no inheritance in Israel and depended solely on the tithing system. Levi tithing through Abraham to Melchizedek was alluding to the priesthood of Melchizedek being greater than that of levi. Tithing was not the point at all in Chapter 7 of Hebrews, Jesus is.

I personally believe if you did the math a born again child will exceed 10% in everything. It is not about tithing it is about being crucified with Him and being a daily living sacrifice.

You said:

It really is an apples and oranges comparison since what you are referring to as "tithing" simply is not taught in scripture. There is no tithe on monetary income found in scripture, period. Law tithing was on increase of agricultural ASSETS. Abraham tithes once on things that did not belong to him and returned the balance to the owners. Jacob also tithes ONCE on ASSETS.

In the New Testament, the number 10 simply has no relevance.

I don't understand what part of my post you are addressing. Where did I say 10% had relevance other than saying that the NT church blows it away? I am not speaking mandatory 10% I am just speaking reality.

[good samaritan]

Is. 6:13 But yet in it shall be a tenth, and it shall return, and shall be eaten

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Thank you for your opinion. I could just as easily say to you cease from hindering what God has instituted. That you have no right or authority to change God's word. He instituted it and He is the one that gets to stop it. Can you tell me where it stopped? When you were delivered from the Law.

I can tell you who STARTED it in New Testament times...The Catholic Church in the 6th century.

Why take a chance on being told depart from me?

Nope not mad as a hornet or anything else. I think it is sad that you have such contempt for preachers. I think it's sad that you accuse me of having access to 10% for life and would rather take a chance on preaching false doctrine. Why? Because I believe something different from you? You don't even know me but you are willing to condemn me and castigate me. Perhaps you should take the beam out of your own eye before attacking me.

This thread was going along okay. I know there is people that disagree with me and I am okay with that. I believe what I believe and will stand before God just like everyone else. This thread turned south when others showed up with condemnation.

No problem. I will bow out now. I sincerely wish you the best and may God grant you an ever closer walk with Him.

BTW I have never taken a salary from the Church. I work a full time job, preach and teach. I have received an offering from time to time.

Take Care

Pliny, condemnation is good.

It is what brought you to the Lord in the first place.

It will help you to stop teaching mandatory giving also.

You will hug my neck in eternity for "condemning" you, if you hear what I am saying and stop teaching this STUMBLINGBLOCK/SALVATION TAX/GOD ROBBER message to the precious fellow saints you serve the Lord Jesus with.

[J.A. Perez]

If A person refused to give offering would he be guilty of robbing God?

[Sean]

If GOD actually called him/her a robber?

Yes.

[Sean]

The question is....

8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.



Is this written to the New Testament Church of the living God?

[Sean]

Unless we use replacement theology....

8 Will a CHRISTIAN rob God? Yet CHRISTIANS have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have CHRISTIANS robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

9 CHRISTIANS are cursed with a curse: for CHRISTIANS have robbed me, even this whole CONGREGATION OF CHRISTIANS.

[Sean]

Silly?....

You hear that every week, Church of the living God.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sean

Pliny, condemnation is good.

It is what brought you to the Lord in the first place.

It will help you to stop teaching mandatory giving also.

You will hug my neck in eternity for "condemning" you, if you hear what I am saying and stop teaching this STUMBLINGBLOCK/SALVATION TAX/GOD ROBBER message to the precious fellow saints you serve the Lord Jesus with.

I am thankful I am living in the Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah.

(Jer 31:31 KJV) Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

(Jer 31:32 KJV) Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

(Jer 31:33 KJV) But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.


Tithing was practiced by the NT church way before there was a Catholic Church.

I hope you are there in eternity. I may hug your neck but it will not be because of the spirit displayed here.

You should stop condemning preachers for preaching and teaching what they believe. I have learned and actually still learning that there are those who pray just as much, study as much and are just as sincere as I am that have a different opinion. I don't condemn them. It is arrogant to do so. It is arrogant because it assumes that the condemner is so much smarter than the other person or has prayed more or has studies more... You get the idea I hope.

I have asked the question once and will ask it again:
When did tithing start and who started it?

Tithing predated the Law so even if the Law ended, which it didn't - it was fulfilled, it would not necessitate an end to tithing.

Where did the Apostles or Jesus say tithing ceased?

Take Care

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Pliny

I am thankful I am living in the Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah.

(Jer 31:31 KJV) Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

(Jer 31:32 KJV) Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

(Jer 31:33 KJV) But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.



Amen, it is The Millennial covenant to future Israel, that we are "partially" under, to be fully revealed when our Lord Jesus returns the 2nd time!


Tithing was practiced by the NT church way before there was a Catholic Church.

Where in the New Testament Church can we find this?

I hope you are there in eternity. I may hug your neck but it will not be because of the spirit displayed here.

What?, is that the thanks I get for helping you?

You should stop condemning preachers for preaching and teaching what they believe. I have learned and actually still learning that there are those who pray just as much, study as much and are just as sincere as I am that have a different opinion. I don't condemn them. It is arrogant to do so. It is arrogant because it assumes that the condemner is so much smarter than the other person or has prayed more or has studies more... You get the idea I hope.

Of course, but I would ask you top stop looking at others that seem to be getting away with teaching this error, and be an individual. Are you finished learning? Do you trust every doctrine you have learned from your friends?
How do you know, those that died in error are not lost?(I hope not).
Are you willing to take that chance and follow the others?

I have asked the question once and will ask it again:
When did tithing start and who started it?

It was a land tax, practiced by a man named Melchisedek, who was a priest in a pagan city.

Tithing predated the Law so even if the Law ended, which it didn't - it was fulfilled, it would not necessitate an end to tithing.

So did circumcision, so do you insist on that also?

Where did the Apostles or Jesus say tithing ceased?

Hebrews 7:5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:

Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Take Care

You too brother