Replacement Theology Man Highlights - Page 11

Bowas · #**101** 10-15-2015, 12:49 PM

Sean. You said, "The literalist reads and believes this....

22 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb(Jesus)."

If you, being a literalist, how did you come to the conclusion this was Jesus?

It doesn't seem to be literal, but are you using the same metaphorist rules as you say others use?

Sean · #**102** 10-15-2015, 02:27 PM

Easy, it has a lamb(slain animal) as a "sign" of Jesus....

same book...

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Sean · #**103** 10-15-2015, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowas

Sean. You said, "The literalist reads and believes this....

22 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb(Jesus)."

If you, being a literalist, how did you come to the conclusion this was Jesus?

It doesn't seem to be literal, but are you using the same metaphorist rules as you say others use?

Same/ metaphor

Thats an oxymoron.....

same
adjective \ˈsām\
: not different

: exactly like someone or something else

: not changed : exactly like an earlier version, event, etc.

metaphor
[met-uh-fawr, -fer]
Spell Syllables
Examples Word Origin
noun
1.
a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable in order to suggest a resemblance, as in “A mighty fortress is our God.”.
Compare mixed metaphor, simile (def 1).
2.
something used, or regarded as being used, to represent something else; emblem; symbol.

I am not a metaphorist, but I am a "same-ist" or "sign-ist".(there is a BIG difference)

Godsdrummer · #**104** 10-16-2015, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Easy, it has a lamb(slain animal) as a "sign" of Jesus....

same book...

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

But how do you know that the lamb is Jesus? or that it is a sign of Christ? So John did not see Christ he saw a "sign" of Christ.

Sean · #**105** 10-16-2015, 07:28 AM

Because the lamb is a sign/symbol of the slain Christ, depicted in the same book....And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

It is not a metaphor of Christ.....

mfblume · #**106** 10-16-2015, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Because the lamb is a sign/symbol of the slain Christ, depicted in the same book....And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

It is not a metaphor of Christ.....

Sean, did you ever stop to think none of us began saying anything about metaphors. That was you who accused us of that. Where did we say it? Where did we say Revelation is written with metaphors. We just said a metaphor is a sign when you disagreed.

Sean · #**107** 10-16-2015, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Sean did you ever stop to think none of us began saying anything about metaphors. That was you who accused us of that. Where did we say it?

Mike, preterism teaches the book of revelation is filled with metaphors of something else.

mfblume · #**108** 10-16-2015, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Mike, preterism teaches the book of revelation is filled with metaphors of something else.

That is what you said. Where did we say that? Form the start I said the book was SIGNified. Full of SIGNS. Then you started changing the definition of a sign. An d then you started saying we believe in metaphors. We never started that at all. We aid SIGnified.

Sean · #**109** 10-16-2015, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

That is what you said. Where did we say that? Form the start I said the book was SIGNified. Full of SIGNS. Then you started changing the definition of a sign. An d then you started saying we believe in metaphors. We never started that at all. We aid SIGnified.

So, you are admitting there is a difference between signs and metaphors now.

Thank your for clearing that up for me.

Now stop using metaphors in that book and read the signs.....

Like this.....11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Heaven is a sign of heaven, not the temple.

Earth is a sign of earth, not the Jews.

Godsdrummer · #**110** 10-16-2015, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

So, you are admitting there is a difference between signs and metaphors now.

Thank your for clearing that up for me.

Now stop using metaphors in that book and read the signs.....

Like this.....11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Heaven is a sign of heaven, not the temple.

Earth is a sign of earth, not the Jews.

Allrighty then by the same token.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

the beast is not the antichrist, it is just a sci-fi, beast, rising out of the sea.

Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

And the dragon is not Satan, just a dragon with magical powers, hey I kind of like this literal stuff, because it can never happen. Unless aliens come out of the sky.