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Originally Posted by Pliny
Thank you for your opinion. I disagree.
Currency is FAR different from bartering with weights and precious metals and jewels.
Currency, as it is known today, did not exist until around 600 BC.
Based upon this polemic there was never a need for the innovation known as currency.
Necessity IS the mother of invention.
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From Webster's 1828:
currency
CURRENCY, n. [See Current.]
1. Literally, flowing, running or passing; a continued or uninterrupted course, like that of a stream; as the currency of time.
2. A continued course in public opinion, belief or reception; a passing from person to person, or from age to age; a, a report has had a long or general currency.
3. A continual passing from hand to hand, as coin or bills of credit; circulation; as the currency of cents, or of English crowns; the currency of bank bills or treasury notes.
4. Fluency; readiness of utterance; but in this sense we generally use fluency.
5. General estimation; the rate at which any thing is generally valued.
He takes greatness of kingdoms according to their bulk and currency, and not after intrinsic value.
6. That which is current or in circulation, as a medium of trade. The word may be applied to coins, or to bills issued by authority. It is often applied to bank notes, and to notes issued by government.
Let us assume for the moment that you are correct, that 'currency' did not exist prior to 600 BC. If that were true, then the tithe does not respect currency, since the Law was given almost 1000 years prior to the invention of 'currency'. Therefore, nobody is or can be required to pay tithes of 'currency', such as cash, coin, check, or electronic funds transfer or direct deposit, credit accounts, stocks, bonds, bearrer bonds, bank drafts, bank notes, promissory notes, etc.
Thank you for making our point.
Now, as for the rest of your post, you said that based upon my argument, there was never a need for the invention of currency. I am amazed you would say such a thing. Surely you are smarter than that. Who wants to carry gold nuggets, when they can carry a gold coin, with a government's seal of authenticity and guarantee of value and actual metallic content and purity? And who wants to carry gold coins when they carry slips of paper equivalent in exchange? And who wants to carry slips of paper when they carry a plastic card? And who wants to carry a plastic card when they could just scan their iris, fingerprints, palm print, or do a DNA sample, or retinal scan, or face print? (Or scan an implanted biochip? lol)
Gold and silver, jewels, nuggets, rocks (diamonds, rubies, etc), rings, crowns, shields, etc etc etc were used in barter. Barter means trading one thing for another. If I trade or barter with you for something, and what you give me is something I can for example eat or wipe my behind with, and what I give you is something you can trade or barter for something you can actually directly use, consume, eat, wipe, or whatever, then I gave you MONEY or it's direct equivalent - a means of exchange.
Something that has EQUIVALENT value to an end-use product or service.
But hey lookie here:
Deu 14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
Deu 14:23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
Deu 14:24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
Deu 14:25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
Deu 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
Deu 14:27 And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee.
Wow, who'd a thunk it? When the law of the tithe was given, they had MONEY! Imagine that!
The Greek renders that word 'money' as arguriou, which is defined by my Greek Dictionary as 'CASH'. The Hebrew means 'silver', that is, money. Folks were to sell their tithe, for CASH (actually, SILVER), and once in Jerusalem they were to use that CASH (silver money) to BUY stuff to eat and drink, and they themselves were to EAT the TITHE, along with the Levite.
Why is this not taught as part of the modern 'tithe' doctrine?
Because the modern 'tithe' doctrine is simply not found in the Bible.
If it was, it would have been spelled out, 'thus saith the LORD', chapter and verse. Instead, vague allusions mentioning the word tithe, or mentioning giving, are supplied, with no dEFINITIONS or EXPLANATIONS FROM SCRIPTURE as to WHAT, HOW, WHEN, WHERE, from WHOM and to WHOM, etc.
Ergo, the modern 'tithe' doctrine is a recent, unbiblical invention of men.
Which by the way, I PROVED in a previous post in this thread (that it was INVENTED in the late 19th century) and which was left untouched by any rebuttal.
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