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11-19-2015, 04:23 PM
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Re: Terrorist Attacks In Paris
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Funny and your signature says "just lobbin grenades?" 
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11-19-2015, 05:42 PM
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Re: Terrorist Attacks In Paris
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Bahahahaha!
Yeah, muslims are so full of grace.
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Yes. The freest, most charitable nations on the planet are found where Islam is most prevalent!
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11-19-2015, 05:45 PM
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Re: Terrorist Attacks In Paris
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Sure don't want to trust God, because you don't believe that He could blow out a match. It would seem that you serve a God that YOU need to help? A God that you must help across the street or else He will get plowed down by a truck. Sadly superheroes like yourself usually relieve themselves in their pajamas with a house invasion. Dennis Rader the BTK strangler entered a home was able to murder the entire family. While you may see yourself as being capably able to hysterically frantically oppose your attackers, envision yourself brandishing a firearm against your enemies, or doing some Wax on Wax off Karate Kid mojo on the serial killers who just entered you abode. The frightening truth is, without God you are spitting in the wind. I have seen so many miserably sad cases of people who met their demise at the hands of vicious killers.
But that wouldn't happen to you DB, you would just throw your mighty red, white, and blue shield at them.
But when you stop believing God will intervene, He usually answers that with not disappointing you. But His mercy endures for ever so He will pull the attackers off you, and maybe even give you a clean set of underwear.  |
You would defend the safety of your wife and daughters. You would do it every time. Bottom line---your uber pacifism will take a back seat to protecting your family. You would do it every day and twice on Sunday.
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11-19-2015, 06:00 PM
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Re: Terrorist Attacks In Paris
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Funny and your signature says "just lobbin grenades?" |
Metaphorically speaking of course...
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11-19-2015, 08:26 PM
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Re: Terrorist Attacks In Paris
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Would to God they all be saved.
I still contend that should your wives and/or children be under assault, you would defend them rather than trust God for a miracle.
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These fear-mongering, panic-inducing scenarios are ungodly.
No one has any power over me and my family except it be given to them from Above, and if given from Above, though the Lord slay us, yet in Him will we trust.
My feet are shod with the preparation of the Gospel of Peace. How about yours?
We can "would to God" all we want, but Muslims don't get converted by the sword any more than anyone else in the world.
We are emissaries of the Lord of Peace. Can we act like it? Can we be still be Christ-like under the hardest situations or only when it's easy and convenient?
The Lord just might put this whole "Christian" nation, and the Apostolic Church within her borders, to the test just to find out.
And from the rhetoric I'm seeing and hearing all over the place, this "Christian" nation and the Apostolic Church within her borders hasn't gotten off to a good start.
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11-19-2015, 08:33 PM
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Re: Terrorist Attacks In Paris
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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11-19-2015, 09:01 PM
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Re: Terrorist Attacks In Paris
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These fear-mongering, panic-inducing scenarios are ungodly.
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These scenarios are very relevant to the discussion. These terrorists would most certainly rape our women and accost our children. Every one of you would physically defend your families, even laying down your lives if necessary. It's dishonest to pretend you wouldn't. THAT is ungodly.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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11-19-2015, 09:07 PM
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Re: Terrorist Attacks In Paris
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These scenarios are very relevant to the discussion. These terrorists would most certainly rape our women and accost our children. Every one of you would physically defend your families, even laying down your lives if necessary. It's dishonest to pretend you wouldn't. THAT is ungodly.
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What terrorists? Where are they, within our borders? How close to my neck of the woods are they? There is no clear and present threat presented to SE WI by any terrorist. How about where you live?
That's why these scenarios are mere fear-mongering.
Yes, terrorist actions are happening in the world; suffering and the evil that causes it, abounds. This isn't about being denial. But let's also not invent things that aren't actually happening for the sake of "discussion".
Many Christians in this country are losing their resolve to trust God because the insidious news media has preached fear, loss, suffering, and terror for so long too many of us have bought what they were selling.
I mean, was David just spit-balling, talking shop? Or did he give us Spirit-inspired words of encouragement, to strengthen our trust in the Almighty?
Psalm 11,
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1. In the Lord put I my trust: how say ye to my soul, Flee as a bird to your mountain?
2. For, lo, the wicked bend their bow, they make ready their arrow upon the string, that they may privily shoot at the upright in heart.
3. If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?
4. The Lord is in his holy temple, the Lord's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
5. The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
6. Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.
7. For the righteous Lord loveth righteousness; his countenance doth behold the upright.
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11-19-2015, 10:29 PM
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Re: Terrorist Attacks In Paris
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I mean, was David just spit-balling, talking shop? Or did he give us Spirit-inspired words of encouragement, to strengthen our trust in the Almighty? Psalm 11, |
David trusted in the Lord, but he still sent a rock to kill the giant.
David trusted in the Lord, but he still used a real sword to fight his enemies.
It is an idiotic notion that we must simply trust in the Lord and do nothing to protect ourselves.
When I was in the Army, I had no problem praying and trusting in the Lord, yet I still carried my M16 and made sure that it and all my other equipment was operational.
Yes I trusted in the Lord, but I still was an Expert Marksman.
Abraham the father of the faithful (he is my spiritual father) armed 314 servants and with them and two other allied princes went to fight a war that liberated his nephew Lot.
If Abraham had a silly do nothing faith and leave it al to God, he would have just prayed and stayed in his tent and not risk his life and the lives of his servants in an attack against the invading army.
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11-19-2015, 10:37 PM
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Re: Terrorist Attacks In Paris
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
These scenarios are very relevant to the discussion. These terrorists would most certainly rape our women and accost our children. Every one of you would physically defend your families, even laying down your lives if necessary. It's dishonest to pretend you wouldn't. THAT is ungodly.
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DB, I think you are having an old life crisis, bro, how many fights have you been in during your life time? I mean you ain't some young dude. So, I would guess getting up out of bed isn't with a leap. Therefore I don't think you would fair well with your blankets hiked over your head by an assailant, while he is putting down some Bs onto your cranium. Or worse than that a bullet to the temple, while you are sawing wood off in REM sleep. As far as my wife being assaulted, she was living by herself in a neighborhood in a bad section of the city. She had situations go down but she would lift her hands and pray. What was she supposed to do? Do a little Mr Miyagi "paint the fence?"
Dude, we had an old Colombian sister who told a story how she and another sister were out crossing a field. The rancher didn't like Pentecostals. So, he let out his steer. The animal charged the two sisters, and Sister Esasa, held up her Bible and said JESUS! The animal stopped and turned around.
One of the brother minister's abuelita was walking with her granddaughter through an alley, when they were attacked. One of the attackers grabbed her pocketbook. He took of running, and she screamed out JESUS! He fell flat on his face, she walked over and picked up her pocket book, praising God as she walked away.
DB, trust Jesus, HE still in the fire! 
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