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Old 11-27-2015, 05:59 PM
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You need to cool it.

Stupid Turkish government fine, but ease up on the people. You have no clue who you are referring.
Okay, since I need to spell it out to clarify I'm not talking about the old Turk grandmother in her black evening burqa...Stupid Turkish President, PM and other govt leaders involved.

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Old 11-27-2015, 07:04 PM
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That's an extreme example, and no, Russia could not.

The use of force is justified in defending national borders, but usually a clear and imminent threat is required to resort to such drastic measures.

Two jets passing through the tip of Turkey for 17 seconds, making no threat to Turkey is not enough to shoot them down.

Turkey should be reprimanded, not defended.

Consider this, "In 2005, Turkey entered Greek airspace 1,017 times, or as often as 40 times a day," according to a WikiLeaks document.

Perhaps Greece should start blowing Turkish jets out of the sky when Turkey violates Greece's airspace.
Arent Greece and Turkey NATO allies?
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Old 11-27-2015, 07:33 PM
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Okay, since I need to spell it out to clarify I'm not talking about the old Turk grandmother in her black evening burqa...Stupid Turkish President, PM and other govt leaders involved.

No, just be cool about my Turkish Apostolic brothers and sisters in Izmir and Istanbul. I don't know about grandmothers in black, unless their Sicilian or Greek.
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Arent Greece and Turkey NATO allies?
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So allies don't have sovereign airspace?
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So allies don't have sovereign airspace?
Allies might feel less threatened
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Allies might feel less threatened
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