I Don't Think God "Creates" Anything Any More

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Sean

JD, you are thrashing God right now.

You are inadvertently blaming Him for his fallen creation.

God is creating new cells in your body right now.

Think about it for a second. The cells are not procreating, but coming from nowhere.

Not trying to thrash God. I do need to be careful though.

As for the bolded, what is your point. Please finish your thought.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i don't believe that God usurps man's free will; ergo, the Hitlers of the world are manifest as the will of the people. Hitler was as much made by circumstance, as born, iow. He was elected because he reflected the people. But he had the same choices we have, and freely chose to be what he was. God did not "make him bad."

Did God know that sweet baby Adolf would do what he did when God created sweet baby Adolf?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Literal version:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God;
Joh 1:2 this one was in the beginning with God;
Joh 1:3 all things through him did happen, and without him happened not even one thing that hath happened.

Green's Literal Version:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and without Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being.

God said this:

Isa_44:2 Thus saith the LORD that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen.

Jeremiah was told this:

Jer_1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Job said:

Job_10:8 Thine hands have made me and fashioned me together round about; yet thou dost destroy me.

David said this:

Psa_119:73 Thy hands have made me and fashioned me: give me understanding, that I may learn thy commandments.

Thank you Esaias.

[shazeep]

God is omnipotent, so yes. The same as God knowing what you would do when He created you. Both you and Adolf are/were free to pursue your posterity, however. Adolf could have as easily become a missionary or whatever, should he have desired. His desire, or free will, led him in the direction it did.

[Jermyn Davidson]

God doesn't tempt anyone with evil. Hitler was drawn away to deeper and deeper evil based on his own desires for evil.

[shazeep]

yes. And, having gone way down that hole, i can tell you that one gets warnings all along the way, many warnings.

[Jermyn Davidson]

http://news.yahoo.com/china-clone-fa...061141389.html


There is controversy over whether cloned beef is safe for human consumption -- research by the US Food and Drug Adminstration says that it is, but the European parliament has backed a ban on cloned animals and products in the food chain.

[Monterrey]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Literal version:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God;
Joh 1:2 this one was in the beginning with God;
Joh 1:3 all things through him did happen, and without him happened not even one thing that hath happened.

Green's Literal Version:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and without Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being.

God said this:

Isa_44:2 Thus saith the LORD that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen.

Jeremiah was told this:

Jer_1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Job said:

Job_10:8 Thine hands have made me and fashioned me together round about; yet thou dost destroy me.

David said this:

Psa_119:73 Thy hands have made me and fashioned me: give me understanding, that I may learn thy commandments.

Amen.

You beat me to it.

Some here are so close to universalism it is pitiful.

[Monterrey]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Did God know that sweet baby Adolf would do what he did when God created sweet baby Adolf?

Of course He did.

And the point is?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Not trying to thrash God. I do need to be careful though.

As for the bolded, what is your point. Please finish your thought.

Okay, my point is, the cells have no mom or dad, but they reproduce on their own.

This is God at work, creating/reproducing healing matter out of other matter.