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Old 03-14-2016, 09:44 AM
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Re: America 2016: Free Speech for a selected few.

So, you would be fine with protests at all of the above scenarios?
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:16 AM
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So, you would be fine with protests at all of the above scenarios?
"""In my mind this would be the same thing as:

Carolina Panther fans invading the Super Bowl Celebration for the Broncos.

Pro LGBT activists invading a religious gathering opposed to them.

Christians invading a gathering of Muslim speakers.

Pro choice followers invading a gathering of those opposed to abortion."""

Absolutely. Though I doubt sports fans would consider doing something you described.

LGBT activists have protested churches and religious gatherings in the past. And pro-choice people have picketed churches and protested against businesses with whom they disagree.

I haven't heard of many Christian ministers protesting muslims. Most want to make nice and pretend they serve the same god.

But again, if you want to be effective in your protest, you do so at the point of reference. If you want to protest Trump, you do so at a Trump rally, not at a Bernie Sanders rally.
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:25 AM
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I don't picket, but I wouldn't picket an abortion clinic in front of Walmart.

Doesn't. Make. Sense.
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:33 AM
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Re: America 2016: Free Speech for a selected few.

nd - there is a significant difference in my mind between picketing and taking over the venue.
I would have the same opinion if conservatives attempted to take over a Hillary or Bernie event.
Technically you do not have the right to take over the event, as usually these arenas are rented by the campaign staging the event.
Which would give them the right to eject you.
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:42 AM
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nd - there is a significant difference in my mind between picketing and taking over the venue.
I would have the same opinion if conservatives attempted to take over a Hillary or Bernie event.
I agree there is a bit of a difference between that particular scenario. It's still protesting. I still say it makes no sense protesting Trump at an event for Hillary or Bernie.

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Technically you do not have the right to take over the event, as usually these arenas are rented by the campaign staging the event.
Which would give them the right to eject you.
You are correct. The Donald has every right to remove them and that doesn't violate their free speech. However, they may still buy tickets and wave their flags and hold their banners and shout their slogans and it doesn't violate his or his supporter's 1A rights.

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Old 03-14-2016, 11:00 AM
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@realDonaldTrump: Bernie Sanders is lying when he says his disruptors aren't told to go to my events. Be careful Bernie, or my supporters will go to yours!
Yeah, Bernie! Take that!

smh

Does the Donald have any proof of Bernie lying? Trump makes these claims and no one makes him provide the evidence to back it up.

I doubt Bernie is telling his supporters to go to Trump's events. Now, I do believe - and there is proof - that Soros (who backs Bernie) is telling people to go to these events.

But Trump isn't attacking Soros. With the recent news of Soros financing these protests, along with Soros' threats of more protests, one would think the Donald would have something to say/tweet about Soros.

I don't watch/listen to Trump's speeches, but his Twitter feed is silent and has nothing about Soros.

Interesting.

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Old 03-14-2016, 11:38 AM
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Re: America 2016: Free Speech for a selected few.

Yes, it is curious that the Donald hasn't called out Soros.
He does call out everyone else.
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Old 03-14-2016, 11:48 AM
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To be clear, I'm not suggesting any kind of conspiracy between Trump and Soros.

It's just odd that Trump would threaten the owners of a pro team for spending money for an anti-Trump campaign, but not Soros, who is also spending money against Trump.

Perhaps Trump knows he can't bully or threaten Soros, or that Soros would sue if provoked.

A bit of a connection:
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=332

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Re: America 2016: Free Speech for a selected few.

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That's true. I read that four protesters from the Chicago rally were arrested. All had one charge of "resisting arrest" which is typical at a protest. A couple others had interfering with police and battery of an officer included with the resisting.
In Chi-Town, people arrested at such an event, especially if they attacked a police officer, are more likely to get an "accidental" fall down some stairs at the precinct, i.e. a rubber hose or phone-book beating, than any actual charges, or a quick stomping in the paddy wagon and a release.
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