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03-19-2016, 08:26 AM
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Re: Flat earth, seriously?
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Have any of you come across people who actually believe the bible teaches the earth is flat, and are making a huge issue out of it?
I know someone who recently swallowed it hook, line and sinker. Unbelievable!
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Flat earthers usually also have flat heads. 
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03-19-2016, 10:01 AM
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Re: Flat earth, seriously?
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Flat earthers usually also have flat heads. |
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03-19-2016, 12:08 PM
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Re: Flat earth, seriously?
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I am not a flat earther. But I do see that any viewpoint assumed by us to be "obviously and clearly refuted" is easily dismissed, without ever actually examining the claims and the data.
Probably 95% of people who believe the earth is spheroid, believe it because they were told it, and not because they actually investigated and concluded on their own. Which, sadly, seems to be true for most any question. People generally just believe whatever their authorities tell them without much critical examination.
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Great post!! This is exactly why I like for my children to see opposing view points to what they believe. I want them to analyze and question what they believe and find the truth themselves.
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03-19-2016, 04:10 PM
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Re: Flat earth, seriously?
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Great post!! This is exactly why I like for my children to see opposing view points to what they believe. I want them to analyze and question what they believe and find the truth themselves.
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How old are your children?
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03-19-2016, 08:00 PM
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Re: Flat earth, seriously?
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03-19-2016, 11:02 PM
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Re: Flat earth, seriously?
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Originally Posted by Esaias
I am not a flat earther. But I do see that any viewpoint assumed by us to be "obviously and clearly refuted" is easily dismissed, without ever actually examining the claims and the data.
Probably 95% of people who believe the earth is spheroid, believe it because they were told it, and not because they actually investigated and concluded on their own. Which, sadly, seems to be true for most any question. People generally just believe whatever their authorities tell them without much critical examination.
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I am not a scientist, nor have I traveled into the universe to see if the earth is round or not, so how else should I believe what has been told to me, and shown through pictures? Just wondering... have you? ....
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03-19-2016, 11:12 PM
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Re: Flat earth, seriously?
If the earth was flat, then the shortest distance between two points would be a straight line.
Since the earth is not flat, the shortest distance on a globe is a curved line.
This may not make much of difference on a flight from Detroit to Chicago, but from Chicago to Seoul, it makes a huge difference (a flight I took some 16 years ago). We flew to California, then up the West Coast of North America to Alaska, then came down the East Coast of Asia.
No global navigation since before Columbus would work properly if the earth was flat. There's no massive retaining wall at the edges of the ocean.
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03-19-2016, 11:24 PM
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Re: Flat earth, seriously?
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
If the earth was flat, then the shortest distance between two points would be a straight line.
Since the earth is not flat, the shortest distance on a globe is a curved line.
This may not make much of difference on a flight from Detroit to Chicago, but from Chicago to Seoul, it makes a huge difference (a flight I took some 16 years ago). We flew to California, then up the West Coast of North America to Alaska, then came down the East Coast of Asia.
No global navigation since before Columbus would work properly if the earth was flat. There's no massive retaining wall at the edges of the ocean.
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Great points.
Please, everyone, post some points that anyone could realize prove the earth is a globe so I can help this brother out and rescue him from this doctrine. Thanks!
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03-19-2016, 11:46 PM
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Re: Flat earth, seriously?
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
If the earth was flat, then the shortest distance between two points would be a straight line.
Since the earth is not flat, the shortest distance on a globe is a curved line.
This may not make much of difference on a flight from Detroit to Chicago, but from Chicago to Seoul, it makes a huge difference (a flight I took some 16 years ago). We flew to California, then up the West Coast of North America to Alaska, then came down the East Coast of Asia.
No global navigation since before Columbus would work properly if the earth was flat. There's no massive retaining wall at the edges of the ocean.
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Caveat: I am NOT a flat earther.
However, having said that, I do not think you understand the flat earth model.
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03-19-2016, 11:51 PM
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Re: Flat earth, seriously?
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Great points.
Please, everyone, post some points that anyone could realize prove the earth is a globe so I can help this brother out and rescue him from this doctrine. Thanks!
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Those are not good points, they are red herrings as they do not address genuine flat earth cosmology.
But, to help you out, I believe the greatest, single most important Achilles Heel of the flat earth model is the rising and setting of the sun. The F.E.M. does not accurately predict what is plainly observable. According to them, the sun rotates around a orbit (elliptic) over the flat disk of the earth. Sunrise is when the sun comes into view from a distance, and sunset is when it recedes to a distance where it appears to go "beyond sight"/too far away to be seen.
BUT, this would result in a diminution in size at sunset. Which is exactly opposite to observation.
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