UPCI drop minister without notice?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Actually I believe Deut 25:5 fits perfectly for transvestites.

How?

[houston]

I thibk he meant 22:5

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Either people dress modestly, or they don't. Some groups believe in modesty, some don't. Those that do, tend to dress similarly. Those that don't, likewise.

UPC women's clothing styles are not 'old fashioned'. Lots of people dress like that, including people who aren't religious at all.

The 'identifier' for UPC women is not modest clothing, by the way - it's the hair combined with dress or skirt and no wrist or neck jewelry. (All the jewelry is in the hair these days or on the dress or skirt.) And by hair I do not mean 'long hair', I mean those insane poofs and coiffures. There has developed a distinctly UPCI hair style system, it's unmistakable.

Nowadays, at least around here, if you see a woman dressed modestly and simply with a long dress or skirt, no makeup, no jewelry, and long hair they are more likely to be Baptist or non-UPC Pentecostal.

That is the problem with legalism. People will find a way to follow the rule void of the principle it was designed for. I believe ladies should wear dresses and allow there hair to grow. However, I do think we must be careful how we legislate things in the church. Principles must be taught and time given to the pupil to digest the information. If their is room for conjecture then we need to give people the room to have personal convictions.

I have found that if someone develops a personal conviction for something they will go all the way for their conviction. On the other hand if someone follows rules they don't agree with for the sake of just keeping unity it will be short lived.

P.S. Mcdonald's has a dress code for their employee's how much greater is the ministering staff of the local church.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

That is the problem with legalism. People will find a way to follow the rule void of the principle it was designed for. I believe ladies should wear dresses and allow there hair to grow. However, I do think we must be careful how we legislate things in the church. Principles must be taught and time given to the pupil to digest the information. If their is room for conjecture then we need to give people the room to have personal convictions.

I have found that if someone develops a personal conviction for something they will go all the way for their conviction. On the other hand if someone follows rules they don't agree with for the sake of just keeping unity it will be short lived.

P.S. Mcdonald's has a dress code for their employee's how much greater is the ministering staff of the local church.

I teach modesty, this means covering the body.

A dress that hardly covers the body does not qualify as a woman's garment.

A pantsuit that covers the woman's body is actually more modest that some dresses that some women wear to church.

It is about covering the body, but not going to the extremes like the nuns or the muslim women.

if we go by covering the body, then the nuns and the muslim women are far more modest, than regular Christian women.

I can already envision some idiot in the UPCI advocating that their women should dress like the muslim women.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

I teach modesty, this means covering the body.

A dress that hardly covers the body does not qualify as a woman's garment.

A pantsuit that covers the woman's body is actually more modest that some dresses that some women wear to church.

It is about covering the body, but not going to the extremes like the nuns or the muslim women.

if we go by covering the body, then the nuns and the muslim women are far more modest, than regular Christian women.

I can already envision some idiot in the UPCI advocating that their women should dress like the muslim women.

DE. 22:5 is very clear when I read it. Men being men and ladies being ladies is the issue. Although, we must not be intolerant of one another on how we interpret this verse. I will not judge you if you don't despise me. that is how I feel it should work. I do think ladies should wear dresses and let their hair grow. I personally feel like our culture has far worse problems right now.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

So no I do not teach that it is ok to wear a bikini to church.

Aww, man. I had a really nice 2-piece swimsuit that I was totally planning on wearing, next Sunday (FYI, I'm a 300lb guy, if that picture doesn't totally turn your stomach ).

Originally Posted by Esaias

There has developed a distinctly UPCI hair style system, it's unmistakable.

I grew up with two older sisters. I recall distinctly, what was dubbed the Pentecostal Poof.