Sword at the entrance - Page 5

mfblume · #41 05-23-2016, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

shazeep I got you pinned. I know now how you work. you make something up in your mind about someone and forever believe it

btw this is hilarious in the face of 3 pages of your dithering to avoid admitting a Scriptural truism, for what possible reason i still cannot discern, except that it might require you to actually do something with your brain-dead belief. Have a nice gay.

the point is to stop these rabbit trails off the point. start another thread if you want to talk about something else. Phew!

I'm not avoiding anything. you're avoiding the point of the thread and then accuse me of avoiding your rabbit trail. how self focused can you get?

you're scatter-brained. can't stick to a point. I get a witness and you accuse us of some dead brain belief.

you're s real piece, arent you?

mfblume · #42 05-23-2016, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

well, that would direct me to bring up other Scripture, and you don't seem to be too receptive there. So how bout you cough up a hairball, and bat it around with FZ.

go play somewhere else. this thread is about this issue of Hebrews 4. why always rabbit-trail a thread? Phew!

you're not receptive to a point trying to be made. and you have the gall to claim that about the op. lol

you always turn it into the one-trick pony theme of fruit not being necessary.

mfblume · #43 05-23-2016, 02:42 PM

What a waste of time with the point of this thread with all this rabbit trail. thanks again shazeep.

I try getting you on the point and you keep straying.

enough already.

shazeep · #44 05-23-2016, 03:09 PM

Hebrews 4 conflates belief and faith in the translation you chose to post, but they are delineated in other Scripture--as well as many other translations of Hebrews 4, which do not have the word "belief" in them--clarifying that the "belief" there is meant "faith," and not knowledge. You might have your lawyers check it out, and get back to me

http://biblehub.com/hcsb/hebrews/4.htm

and i see that this is pointless, but the only comment i made about the OP is "good one," and i still have no idea what you mean about fruit here, sorry.

mfblume · #45 05-23-2016, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

Hebrews 4 conflates belief and faith in the translation you chose to post, but they are delineated in other Scripture--as well as many other translations of Hebrews 4, which do not have the word "belief" in them--clarifying that the "belief" there is meant "faith," and not knowledge. You might have your lawyers check it out, and get back to me

http://biblehub.com/hcsb/hebrews/4.htm

and i see that this is pointless, but the only comment i made about the OP is "good one," and i still have no idea what you mean about fruit here, sorry.

whatever the point, I was relating what Hebrews 4 started. I always use the KJV So it was not neglecting other translations.

shazeep · #46 05-23-2016, 03:34 PM

no, i wouldn't say that, but i thought it bore clarification as you chose that translation, nothing wrong with it per se. But i see that it does prove what you already believe.

mfblume · #47 05-23-2016, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

um, what? where?

I edited my post.

shazeep · #48 05-23-2016, 03:40 PM

ya, me too.

mfblume · #49 05-23-2016, 03:44 PM

I was trying to say all your posts go back to accusations that fruit doesn't matter. You didn't mention it in this thread but you said the same old idea you've been saying that leads up to it. Belief is not enough because Satan believes. But we know where that is going. We know Satan has no fruit.

So, you eventuslly always go back down the avenue accusing me that I am proposing fruit doesn't matter, although I've repeated it does matter. But while I always focus on what originally makes us righteous, you keep pointing to John's words that say whoever does righteousnes is righteous. And I keep saying his words actually mean someone who is already righteous by faith will be known as righteous by his works.

so it's the same old same old. and you always say i believe other verses don't matter. and that's wrong as well . this is how every conversation goes with you.

mfblume · #50 05-23-2016, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

no, i wouldn't say that, but i thought it bore clarification as you chose that translation, nothing wrong with it per se. But i see that it does prove what you already believe.

see how you send little jabs like this all the time?

I got my beliefs from the bible. and I never explained anything to you about what I think of faith versus believing, by the way.