We were warned about this

[Esaias]

America has been overtaken by Communist ideology.


http://conservativeread.com/we-were-...taken-america/

"I want to share two lists with you. The first is a list that was entered into 1963 Congressional Record. The second is the 10 planks of The Communist Manifesto.

If you can’t see this happening in America, and a ton of progress being made, then I offer two potential explanations:

You are one of the “useful idiots” of communist teaching.
I am one of the “village idiots” that your Mama probably warned you about.

Some of these points will be open for debate and some will not. In some cases it is blatantly obvious that they have achieved their goals. It is even rumored that our own President has deep communist ties. You might want to check that out as well but I will withhold my opinion at this point. Let’s just lay it out and you can interpret it."

[mizpeh]

What does that have to do with the kingdom of God?

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by Esaias

America has been overtaken by Communist ideology.
http://conservativeread.com/we-were-...taken-america/
"I want to share two lists with you. The first is a list that was entered into 1963 Congressional Record. The second is the 10 planks of The Communist Manifesto.
If you can’t see this happening in America, and a ton of progress being made, then I offer two potential explanations:

You are one of the “useful idiots” of communist teaching.
I am one of the “village idiots” that your Mama probably warned you about.

Some of these points will be open for debate and some will not. In some cases it is blatantly obvious that they have achieved their goals. It is even rumored that our own President has deep communist ties. You might want to check that out as well but I will withhold my opinion at this point. Let’s just lay it out and you can interpret it."

Both explanations can be considered correct. Most of us can
belong to one camp or the other.

We can make ourselves "...fools for Christ's sake...", or fools for
the sake of foolish men.!

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

What does that have to do with the kingdom of God?

Everything! The Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Satan, and that of Man, interact, collide, and war with each other daily. All that pertains to the god of this world, and the carnal man filled with lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, constantly interferes with and hinders all that saints of the Most High attempt to be and do for the Lord.

Every country that was overthrown and became communist automatically became a closed country to missionary endeavors. Those Christians found within the borders, were and are severely persecuted, even unto death.

If the USA falls to full blown Communism, you, me, and every saint we know will automatically be in peril.

This doesn't mean that God is not sovereign, or that He has somehow lost control of the situation, but let us admit, in the granting of free will, God has permitted much in this world to happen, even if by just not intercepting any activity and making in stop/come to an end.

The USA is not special. As she continues to fall into greater and greater toxicity and rejection of God-ordained morality, the more and more God will give her up to her own lusts. Our culture, and the depths to which it sinks, will trip some seriously intense spiritual triggers.

Right now, no real hindrances or persecutions exist. But try going to North Korea to share the Good News and so, be a herald of the Kingdom of God. You won't make it out of the country alive, if you can even get in, in the first place.

How many millions of people in North Korea, Cuba, China, Laos, and Vietnam are never going to have a chance to hear about Jesus and receive TRUTH, simply because of the communist regimes put into place by revolutionaries like Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, and etc.?

How many millions lived and died, never hearing a word about the Cross because men like Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Pol Pot, Ceausescu, and others, kept their citizens in spiritual darkness, by controlling them through government policy?

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

What does that have to do with the kingdom of God?

Do you ever have conversations about hobbies, family, cooking, etc? What do they have to do with the Kingdom of God?

The real question is, what is spiritual about ignoring the destruction of western civilization?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Everything! The Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Satan, and that of Man, interact, collide, and war with each other daily. All that pertains to the god of this world, and the carnal man filled with lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, constantly interferes with and hinders all that saints of the Most High attempt to be and do for the Lord.

Every country that was overthrown and became communist automatically became a closed country to missionary endeavors. Those Christians found within the borders, were and are severely persecuted, even unto death.

If the USA falls to full blown Communism, you, me, and every saint we know will automatically be in peril.

This doesn't mean that God is not sovereign, or that He has somehow lost control of the situation, but let us admit, in the granting of free will, God has permitted much in this world to happen, even if by just not intercepting any activity and making in stop/come to an end.

The USA is not special. As she continues to fall into greater and greater toxicity and rejection of God-ordained morality, the more and more God will give her up to her own lusts. Our culture, and the depths to which it sinks, will trip some seriously intense spiritual triggers.

Right now, no real hindrances or persecutions exist. But try going to North Korea to share the Good News and so, be a herald of the Kingdom of God. You won't make it out of the country alive, if you can even get in, in the first place.

How many millions of people in North Korea, Cuba, China, Laos, and Vietnam are never going to have a chance to hear about Jesus and receive TRUTH, simply because of the communist regimes put into place by revolutionaries like Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, and etc.?

How many millions lived and died, never hearing a word about the Cross because men like Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Pol Pot, Ceausescu, and others, kept their citizens in spiritual darkness, by controlling them through government policy?

Exactly right.

[shazeep]

it's not like you're not being controlled by government policy now that's pretty godless

i think the question about what this has to do with the kingdom is a relevant one. You cannot be both an ambassador of an unworldly kingdom and a participating citizen of a country; you will love one and hate the other, no matter what anyone else tells you.

i know this is a hard thing to believe, because you started on the pledge of allegiance in first grade, so it just seems natural. But you live in a fascist empire now, and you're worried about communism? I can't even do a good deed for the retired Pentecostal lady next door without her pulling her wallet out and insisting on some payment now, lol; i seriously doubt communism is a danger for an empire in decline.

i notice also that "communism" is always paired with "godless" before it is served to us, and i'll leave you to draw your own conclusions there, but you might at least suspect anyone married to fascism telling you that communists are godless, that's pretty much a pot/kettle scenario.

Russia has seen a huge resurgence in Christianity, for instance. I don't know if they are still communists, strictly speaking, but we have indications that China has a huge, committed Christian pop, and likely these other commie regimes do as well, even if they are more underground.

So you can gesticulate about what window dressing your country adopts if you like, it would be called something different from what it was anyway. Or by all means voice your concerns, and tell us what you suggest? Civil war? Voting harder?

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by shazeep

it's not like you're not being controlled by government policy now that's pretty godless
i think the question about what this has to do with the kingdom is a relevant one. You cannot be both an ambassador of an unworldly kingdom and a participating citizen of a country; you will love one and hate the other, no matter what anyone else tells you.
i know this is a hard thing to believe, because you started on the pledge of allegiance in first grade, so it just seems natural. But you live in a fascist empire now, and you're worried about communism? I can't even do a good deed for the retired Pentecostal lady next door without her pulling her wallet out and insisting on some payment now, lol; i seriously doubt communism is a danger for an empire in decline.
i notice also that "communism" is always paired with "godless" before it is served to us, and i'll leave you to draw your own conclusions there, but you might at least suspect anyone married to fascism telling you that communists are godless, that's pretty much a pot/kettle scenario.
Russia has seen a huge resurgence in Christianity, for instance. I don't know if they are still communists, strictly speaking, but we have indications that China has a huge, committed Christian pop, and likely these other commie regimes do as well, even if they are more underground.
So you can gesticulate about what window dressing your country adopts if you like, it would be called something different from what it was anyway. Or by all means voice your concerns, and tell us what you suggest? Civil war? Voting harder?

Very well put

One extremist will point out the flaws of his antagonist, and insinuate
that his ways are better. AND IT'S WORKING!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Do you ever have conversations about hobbies, family, cooking, etc? What do they have to do with the Kingdom of God?

The real question is, what is spiritual about ignoring the destruction of western civilization?

This and VotiveSoul's response to Mizpeh's question are right on the money!

[shazeep]

i think it is a flawed frame; if Western Civilization was spiritual, it wouldn't be destroyed. If any part of it is spiritual, it will grow and not die. In worldly terms, Western Civilization is dominated by an empire in decline/decadence, and history has established what happens next in that case, and if there is nothing new under the sun then ours will go essentially the same way. Or by all means carry out your thought process to its logical conclusion and see what you are suggesting, if anything.